Who's Controlling The Straits of Hormuz?

The Iranians as they always have. Trump will say anything to save face, he went into this war like he does everything else... With his arrogance that he will do what he set out to do. He ignored all the advice that he wouldn't succeed because, well it's Trump and of course he knows it all.

He will never win and no matter what lies he tells he will have no choice but to pull out and leave the world in a far more dangerous place than it was.

Oreo Iran has behaved badly? Are you for real??? Trump started this war in case you have forgotten! Iran has a corrupt despicable regime but at end of day Trump started this and does not knowhow to finish it! He thought Iran would just roll over and look where that's got us!

Monica "The Straits of Hormuz were open and running freely before Trump started to bomb Iran for no obvious reason. Then Iran closed it. What else would you expect them to do in these circumstances. It is a very useful weapon in their armoury. Maximum world chaos for a minimal effort on their part.

That Trump and his unsavoury coterie of carpet baggers failed to see that and plan for it shows just how far the US has fallen.

As far as I am concerned Trump got himself into this mess, he can get himself out of it."

Agree totally Monica, Trump and his mostly sycophantic administration seem to think they can do what they like and come out on top. It took years to negotiate the Nuclear deal that existed between Iran and the US and he's destroyed it with ever changing, mostly non-sensical reasons for doing so. The results have been catastrophic and the fact that nobody in the US admin. seemed to have foreseen the consequences advertises their lack of understanding on so many levels.

Iam64

Maybe so Maremia, we have a lot of noisy angry people, often men as we saw after Farage called for rage
They’re angry in their personal lives, as shown by the history of domestic abuse in many of those arrested

I so agree with this. 👏🏽👏🏽

Whitewavemark2

Israel rejects Trump’s peace plan for Gaza

Of course Netanyahu has rejected it, Trump thought he was in cahoots with a likeminded idiot when he said yes to Netanyahu’s call for war, he really hadn’t a clue what kind of maelstrom he was getting into. Now Trump is left looking like a prize sucker after Netanyahu played him like a fiddle.

Iam64

Maybe so Maremia, we have a lot of noisy angry people, often men as we saw after Farage called for rage
They’re angry in their personal lives, as shown by the history of domestic abuse in many of those arrested

Spot on there.

Israel rejects Trump’s peace plan for Gaza

Trump has utterly failed in Iran.

The editorial in the Observer addresses the issue today and I quote from the final paragraph.

“Barack Obama showed what could be done. He devoted 20 months of negotiations to the 2015 Iran nuclear accords. No lives were lost, no missiles launched, no trade bottlenecks closed, no shipping tolls levied.
It was a deal Trump scorned, tore up and now can’t come close to replicating”

If ever anyone wants evidence as to why Trump is one of the worst presidents in USA history, look no further - everything Trump touches turns to dust.

Maybe so Maremia, we have a lot of noisy angry people, often men as we saw after Farage called for rage
They’re angry in their personal lives, as shown by the history of domestic abuse in many of those arrested

Allegedly, invoking anger is a successful way to mobilise voters.
Responding to Iam64's post.
Perhaps that's how Reform gains support?

Iran and Oman appear to be on the verge of an agreement about the Strait.

It’s embarrassing that Reform has any support, yes I’m liberal and recognise people have different views and equality in voting but ….. 🙈

" Operation Fortress" God, it's embarassing.
There is no drawbridge to pull up.

Maremia

And in the real world, the Strait of Hormuz was open, before Netanyahu lured Trump into an illegal war.

You've got it.

Simple point. We do not have a big enough navy to do what Reform wants it to do. Neither in ships nor crew.

winterwhite

This hypothesis about Reform and migrants is nothing to do with the Channel as such.

Reform UK's Operation Fortress plan may be a hypothesis I guess as it's definitely not a workable plan.

Not sure what waters Reform plans for the Royal Navy to use in Operation Fortress if not the English Channel? Isn't that the only way via water from the UK to French sovereign land?

Isn't Hegseth in charge of the USA armed forces?

I don't think even the President of the USA can go to war without some discussion with the Heads of the Armed Forces.

it's more likely a case of him not taking any warnings seriously, & them (like all Armed Forces) keen to prove their worth & get extra funds, so having issued the warnings & being told to go ahead anyway ...off they go.

This hypothesis about Reform and migrants is nothing to do with the Channel as such.

Wyllow3

OK, just imagine the situation the other way round.

France, fed up with dumped irregular migrants, decides to dump them back

If we argue we can do this to France, then they can equally argue they could do it back.

And not just them, the whole of the EU.

You would also ? be breaking NATO guidelines?

You want to start a war?

It's an absolutely crazy proposal. Sorry to put it in such string terms,, but do we actually want to de facto declare war on France?

Reform are off their rockers and cruel in kidding those who know less "Oh it will be OK"

And if we over they load people onto planes and dump somewhere...then they....

No FGoodnessS, get your thinking caps on!

I agree Wyllow3- it's a crazy idea. The French government gave a quick response yesterday and its a no form them?

RN also gave their response- its a no from them.

The rest of the world would give their quick response also if it were ever to come to pass- which of course it won't. Bonkers.

Yes our population is growing in worrying numbers, all down to immigration and illegal immigration the numbers go up every day.
So many working in the black economy for cash, paying nothing to the government and sending most of their pay home. It’s a disaster darling!

LemonJam The UK isn’t resting on its laurels from all I have read we are doing very well on green issues but it can’t be done overnight (Net Zero) and if rushed our economy will crash.Our growth isn’t great as it is and with so much to put right here and spend money on including defence things will have to slow down.What Ed Miliband sees as wonderful is fine on paper but if he was allowed to have full go ahead it would be a disaster for all of us except the wealthy.

edit "strong terms"

OK, just imagine the situation the other way round.

France, fed up with dumped irregular migrants, decides to dump them back

If we argue we can do this to France, then they can equally argue they could do it back.

And not just them, the whole of the EU.

You would also ? be breaking NATO guidelines?

You want to start a war?

It's an absolutely crazy proposal. Sorry to put it in such string terms,, but do we actually want to de facto declare war on France?

Reform are off their rockers and cruel in kidding those who know less "Oh it will be OK"

And if we over they load people onto planes and dump somewhere...then they....

No FGoodnessS, get your thinking caps on!

Put simply the UK is not within its rights to dump irregular migrants on French territory. It will be the UK intimating and provoking a spat with France and the EU.

French territory is not UK territory. The whole world will tell Reform UK Oh no it isn’t