Professor Jason Arday - plagiarism etc

JenniRen

He may have been autistic, he may have been dyslexic, but does that mean he was not aware of what he was doing? He obviously was not stupid and most people who are autistic, dyslexic or both are not stupid either.

This is a very tragic ending to a very strange saga.

On one hand he was flattered by the attention he was getting but he was being used, it's clear he was being supported by others that had an extreme diversity agenda. Im sure Cambridge old boys network will close ranks and divert any blame, thats what they are good at.

Those that become professors at the highest levels of academia, have high intelect, they are able to robustly defend any challenge to their opinions. They are not vulnerable, fragile individuals Arday definitely was.

He may have been autistic, he may have been dyslexic, but does that mean he was not aware of what he was doing? He obviously was not stupid and most people who are autistic, dyslexic or both are not stupid either.

This is a very tragic ending to a very strange saga.

Well David, Professor Arden did shine, in a way that enabled him to pay the rent and contribute to society
Where’s your evidence David, that nobody tells a child don’t bother, or that we see this very often in children who get exaggerated praise then can’t cope in the real world?

I’m amazed at the confidence with which you blame liberal extremists made an autistic dyslexic a professor, knowing he couldn’t cope with criticism.

No investigation has taken place yet you know enough to reach conclusions based on your own world view and prejudice

A young father appears to have taken his life after media and public scrutiny that must have been incredibly scary and stressful. Reflection on what a dreadful time this has been for him, his loved ones and colleagues is needed

Maremia

And what about the children, David, who are told, don't bother, you'll always be a loser?

M
Nobody tells a child dont bother although they may learn it off their parents, those that have the talent will shine, hopefully in away that enables them to pay the rent and contribute to society

And what about the children, David, who are told, don't bother, you'll always be a loser?

As I said on another Thread,
Investigation...yes
Pile on...no

David49

An"unexplained " death, we on GN have been as critical as any.

The real culprits have been the liberal extremists who aimed to make an autistic dyslexic a professor at Cambridge knowing his intellectual limitations and he just could not cope with the criticism.

We see this very often children who have praise exaggerated of their achievements, then when they get to the real world they can't cope. It ends in depression and often worse

That’s it exactly.

Yes the guardian, wateraid, durham university, the football clubs, the students, presumably they should all just have gone along with it all.

No, the ‘real culprits’ are the ones who gleefully tore him apart, blaming a system most won’t understand and making ‘race card’ accusations.

Let’s at least be honest now we know that the results of their cruelty are that the poor man is dead at around 36 years old.

An"unexplained " death, we on GN have been as critical as any.

The real culprits have been the liberal extremists who aimed to make an autistic dyslexic a professor at Cambridge knowing his intellectual limitations and he just could not cope with the criticism.

We see this very often children who have praise exaggerated of their achievements, then when they get to the real world they can't cope. It ends in depression and often worse

And the 'tone' is changing.

Just read he has died.

I’ve just read that he was found unresponsive and has died.
The whole thing is a tragedy. I do hope there isn’t some kind of witch hunt in an attempt to blame individuals or organisations for his death.

Absolutely.

Perhaps they didnt realise he was ill.

The whole saga has been dreadfully mismanaged. It’s very sad that it’s come to this but I still feel the academics at Cambridge and elsewhere should have dealt with this far sooner and provided professional support.

Well, he’s dead now

M0nica

A fantasist has a personality disorder. Anyone weaving a fantasy alternative life to this extent, and believing others will accept this is not normal. There is a difference between being mentally ill and having a personality disorder.

Its true that fantasising, and lying, are among the diagnostic symptoms of some personality disorders .

However, it doesn't follow that every fantasist and liar has a personality disorder.

Personality disorders are difficult to treat.
It needs the individual to recognise they’re the problem
I’ll say one word - trump

AI Overview Yes, a personality disorder is a type of mental health condition or mental illness. It involves long-lasting patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving that differ greatly from cultural expectations and cause problems in daily life.

Agree with the first two sentences.

3rd one - is there a difference?

A fantasist has a personality disorder. Anyone weaving a fantasy alternative life to this extent, and believing others will accept this is not normal. There is a difference between being mentally ill and having a personality disorder.

I agree with you 💯 surfsup (and Boris!).

There’s absolutely zero evidence that JA has serious mental health problems. There’s also zero evidence he’s autistic. He’s obviously a fantasist, and there are many that indulge in such behaviour, I’ve met several such people from school through to various working environments and socially. They are in every social strata.

The difference with this man is he is not only black but neurodivergent (supposedly), had a difficult start in life and has overcome horrendous hardships to achieve such high honours. As more than one commentator put it he had a full house on the bingo card of adversity and Cambridge wanted him as their poster boy.

I believe he’s gone through life weaving these fabulous tales and so called serious, intelligent people in academia have enabled, encouraged and ultimately elevated him and so he just kept going. He probably couldn’t believe how easy it was himself.

So yes, I agree with Boris and others on this. Those on high have a lot to answer for and it is only fitting that some of them take the fall along with Jason Arday as they facilitated this.

Galaxy

Also from what I can see The Guardian did its own investigations and produced more of the falsehoods.

I wouldn't have expected anything else from the Guardian they print a great many stories it doesn't matter if they are true.

"But the other issues I alluded to above can prevent "outsiders" of one kind or another being appointed: and that includes gender and race which I think does need a balance."

Well, Arday has certainly not advanced the argument for the appointment of ethnic minorities, or 'outsiders' as you call them, in our institutions, has he. He has possibly set back the possibility of progress for others too by his actions.

Mental health problems or just sheer arrogance and in fact taking the proverbial to see how far he could go with this charade?