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Nigel Farage has won

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GrannyGravy13 Fri 14-Aug-26 06:38:32

Yes, Nigel has won the by-election with approximately 1,000 more votes this time than in the 2024 election, according to ITV breakfast news…

JenniRen Fri 14-Aug-26 20:41:25

No need to explain.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 14-Aug-26 20:38:07

butterandjam

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The source was the Guardian, btw.😁

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Because my husband was dying and I only read novels for months on end last year, sitting quietly by his side. He didn’t want the news bulletins on, just quiet classical music.

A lot passed me by.

I’m not looking for the sympathy vote just explaining my ignorance and brain fog due to acute anxiety.

JenniRen Fri 14-Aug-26 20:31:55

Tuliptree

Cossy

Think to be fair to FGT, she had more on her mind when this subject first reared its ugly head.

We all have moments when all we can take on board is current family situations.

Be kind, please flowers

We have to take personal responsibility for what we post - it’s our choice. Reform want to drastically change the society in which I live . It would govern for the few not the many. We know it wants a USA health care system - you’d think the GN demographic would care about that. Please don’t start a competition about what different individuals are going through. It’s not fair

Tuliptree, no-one is turning it into a competition and other posters don't know what others are going through unless they tell us.

However, being unkind and in fact intolerant because others are not as aware, politically astute or even read the wrong publications and calling them ignorant as another poster (not you) just did, is just impolite. Well, just plain rude!
Even if they are not having personal problems.

We know some posters have had their problems and heartaches recently because they have told us but others may not want to share.

Cossy Fri 14-Aug-26 20:28:24

“Butterandjam” see my previous post.

Things happen, things pass people by.

I’d pretty much think by now FGT has understood and got the gist.

Let’s stop now, and move on eh!

Farage will get his comeuppance if there’s any justice.

I’ve have more respect if he simply owned up!

Never gonna happen.

Cossy Fri 14-Aug-26 20:25:17

TulipTree 20:04

I respectfully disagree.

You’ll be aware I’ll never ever support Farage or Reform.

We live in a democracy and each one of us has the right to choose whom to support, even if some of us simply cannot understand why.

With respect, I wasn’t in any way “starting a competition” about anything.

Sometimes, our minds wander off to place far far away from current affairs.

I agree we all have personal responsibility for that which we choose to post.

I choose to believe in mitigating circumstances and I stand by my comment of “be kind”.

It’s matters not to me that you don’t agree, that’s entirely your right 🙂

butterandjam Fri 14-Aug-26 20:11:47

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Tuliptree Fri 14-Aug-26 20:04:13

Cossy

Think to be fair to FGT, she had more on her mind when this subject first reared its ugly head.

We all have moments when all we can take on board is current family situations.

Be kind, please flowers

We have to take personal responsibility for what we post - it’s our choice. Reform want to drastically change the society in which I live . It would govern for the few not the many. We know it wants a USA health care system - you’d think the GN demographic would care about that. Please don’t start a competition about what different individuals are going through. It’s not fair

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 14-Aug-26 20:01:01

X posts Cossy.
Thank you for acknowledging that my life was in bits during all this.

Graphite Fri 14-Aug-26 20:00:22

I don’t get it honestly, the GE is almost three years away.

There is always the possibility that Burnham could call a snap election to get a mandate for another five years.

I think if the poll bounce continues when Parliament restarts and continues after Healey's first budget, it could happen.

The ambitious changes AB says he wants to make could take five years or more to come to fruition, not least, a major overhaul of social care. He's asked Baroness Casey to accelerate her work but the report won't be due for another year which only leaves two years to start to implement.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 14-Aug-26 19:59:37

Oh you smuggies
“Tired tired tired”
“Yes me too” etc

Maybe the heat is getting to you both. Or life in general.

Honestly there are nicer (kinder) ways of sharing knowledge ladies.

To be honest I didn’t know that although Farage wasn’t an MP when he received his donation that the previous 12 months count for registering such.

Why would I? As an ordinary Joe Soap in the street?
I know more than some (politically) and obviously less than others. 🤷‍♀️. So?

Cossy Fri 14-Aug-26 19:55:04

Think to be fair to FGT, she had more on her mind when this subject first reared its ugly head.

We all have moments when all we can take on board is current family situations.

Be kind, please flowers

Cossy Fri 14-Aug-26 19:52:31

Tuliptree

I’m just tired tired tired of this sort of lack of knowledge.

Me too and it’s so so boring to constantly repeat oneself.

I feel the same on the immigration and refugee threads. 😕🙄

Graphite Fri 14-Aug-26 19:52:20

All New MPs received this letter dated 5 July 2024:

www.parliament.uk/globalassets/documents/pcfs/advice-notes/parliamentary-commissioner-for-standards---members-induction-pack-2024.pdf

Registration of interests: urgent action required by each Member. The House requires Members, within one month of their election, to register all their current financial interests, and any registrable benefits (other than earnings) received in the 12 months before their election. Thereafter, any new, changed or expired interests must be registered within 28 days.

The main purpose of the Register is to provide information about any financial interest which a Member has, or any benefit which he or she receives, which others might reasonably consider to influence his or her actions or words as a Member of Parliament.

There it is … which others might reasonably consider to influence his or her actions or words as a Member of Parliament.

It doesn't matter what Farage thinks. It's what others might reasonably consider.

When that MP goes onto to promote beneficial crypto tax policy when the £5 million came from a man making billions from crypto what do you think others might think?

Cossy Fri 14-Aug-26 19:50:11

fancythat

Are we back to thinking that Reform Party could win an Election?
I thought most people had gone away from that in the last few months.

I don’t get it honestly, the GE is almost three years away.

I’m far more concerned with the “here and now” and the solutions our new PM puts forward to help us all out with myriad of issues our people and country face on a daily basis.

LemonJam Fri 14-Aug-26 19:44:19

12 months- no less not only 6 months....

LemonJam Fri 14-Aug-26 19:43:43

Are you aware FGT of the detail of the declaration rules regarding the six month period prior to becoming an MP FGT?

Even Farage today to GB news has been covering his back before investigation findings become available. Farage said the only thing he could be found guilty of is not 'completing a bit of paper' with his declaration (as required) his £5million sum received from Harborne received within the 6 month period of becoming an MP. Thus Farage himself is showing his awareness of the rules and a potential outcome.

It won't be his first rodeo of breaching parliamentary rules but previously admitted doing so. This time he was found out by the media and he became defensive instead so has dug a hole for himself. This time it's a personal payment received of £5million he wished to keep hidden.

Tuliptree Fri 14-Aug-26 19:41:59

I’m just tired tired tired of this sort of lack of knowledge.

LizzieDrip Fri 14-Aug-26 19:40:15

FGT I would think you probably know this:

“Under the House of Commons Code of Conduct, new MPs must register any registrable benefits or gifts (other than earnings) received in the 12 months before their election within one month of taking office.”

Graphite Fri 14-Aug-26 19:31:42

Reform is certainly plummeting in the polls.

I am simply pointing out the practicalities of electing a party which has no experience - which applied even when they were riding high.

Tuliptree Fri 14-Aug-26 19:29:59

The time includes time before being an MP

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 14-Aug-26 19:27:38

The source was the Guardian, btw.😁

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 14-Aug-26 19:26:25

butterandjam

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I do not think for one minute NF will stand down. And furthermore I think the inquiry (which is taking a heck of a long time - on purpose? - surely not!) will exonerate him.

Time will tell.

Upthread, you#ve already revealed your ignorance of what gifts MP's have to reveal, and when... the timing in relation to entering Parliament. Farage was CLEARLY in breach.

The Inquiry by the Parliamentary Standards Office commenced on May 16 2026. Farage resigned on July 5th, which suspended the Inquiry. He's been re-elected, therefore still subject to Parliamentary standards so the Enquiry continues.

Right here on GN, you are demonstrating exactly how a charlatan conman gets away with conning the ignorant and misinformed .

I resent your slur butterandjam insinuating I am ignorant of what gifts MPs have to declare etc and by association of your thinking that Im ignorant and misinformed.

Well dear lady - educate yourself.
Google is your friend here.

I rechecked MY understanding by asking Google “Was Farage an MP when he was given £5 million?”

The answer? (I already knew it, you obviously did not!)

“ No, Nigel Farage was not an MP when he received a £5 million personal gift from crypto billionaire Christopher Harborne in April 2024. He was elected as the MP for Clacton more than three months later in July 2024.”

Tuliptree Fri 14-Aug-26 19:24:52

fancythat

Are we back to thinking that Reform Party could win an Election?
I thought most people had gone away from that in the last few months.

Well I’m not - not the proverbial snowballs chance in hell

fancythat Fri 14-Aug-26 19:21:43

Are we back to thinking that Reform Party could win an Election?
I thought most people had gone away from that in the last few months.

Tuliptree Fri 14-Aug-26 19:20:43

Chocolatelovinggran

Hmm, Danny Kruger, FGT.. the Danny Kruger who says that women do not have the right to bodily autonomy..that Danny Kruger?

Yes that DK-awfully kind