Nigel Farage has won

Farage has started as he means to go on by missing the count with a lie about his security.
There was no security risk.
He will leave Clacton at speed if he hasn't already gone.
The people of Clacton may never hear from him again.

Ok - perhaps Farage lovers could tell me why he stood in a constituency such Clacton, not his home town? Why not Southwark? This isn't denigrating anyone - we all know it is because its a mono cultural , low income , deprived area. Not their fault they feel left behind. Farage has promised the moon on a stick.

Clacton may/will get nothing from Farage but Count Binface's team has produced a video of the seaside places there, that make Clacton look like somewhere to visit.

Kandinsky

Well he let the people of Clacton decide his fate and they have, with more votes than before.

Which is a ridiculous claim, the people of Clacton are not in a position to decide his fate, they do not have the facts upon which to make a decision. If they want him to continue being their MP despite him having held no surgeries or not having attended one meeting of The Clacton Regeneration Programme that’s the only decision they have made.

Tuliptree

Ah yes Cossy but you’re only saying that because you ( and many of us) are bitter and twisted and distraught because we all thought ( not hoped) CB would win.

Yes am so distraught I couldn’t eat my corn flakes. 🤣
Am afraid I have to go to the chemists in this heat this morning and that bothers me. Not Farage getting a seat he already had

Ah yes Cossy but you’re only saying that because you ( and many of us) are bitter and twisted and distraught because we all thought ( not hoped) CB would win.

Tuliptree

Apparently he didn’t turn up because of security concerns. Interesting isn’t it that both he and Trump play the security card allbeit in different ways. Well the Parliamentary investigation will resume now

Actually, it’s slightly worse than that, Farage “claims” Essex Police advised him not to go to the count, Essex Police categorically deny this.

Already at least one polling station has been reported to the appropriate authorities due to alledged intimidation and rule breaking by Reform.

What a dirty mess our entire political system is becoming!

I think Farage would quickly give up if it was in his own interests. He is not a good MP. We have seen how little he has done for Clacton.
Why does he want to be an MP if he doesn't want to actually do the job?
The answer is clear to me.

You are correct on all counts Cossy 👍

I don’t think there’s was any question of Farage losing.

Now back to square one, investigation into both Farage and Reform will continue, Farage will continue with his rhetoric.

The people of Clacton will have zero changes.

Tuliptree you seem to have missed that I am not a Reform supporter.

I doubt that NF will be PM, but and it is a very big but, if he is the blame should be laid firmly at the feet of the main parties who have not listened to the concerns of the electorate.

Andy Burnham seems to be listening at the moment, will be interesting to see if this continues once he gets caught up in the Westminster bubble when parliament returns after summer recess.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

There is something rather odd about established parties refusing to contest Clacton and then commentators diminishing Reform’s victory because there was little opposition.

You cannot refuse to enter the ring and then complain that the winner had an easy fight.

Love him or loathe him, they still haven’t discovered how to make the bloody man give up - because he will not give up.
Vote Reform! 🇬🇧

Why?

GrannyGravy13

I will explain why this thread has brightened my morning. It has amused me, not in a happy way, but I could have predicted the reactions beforehand.

I have read all the previous threads in the Clacton by-election, on the whole they were pro Count Bin Face winning.

Now we are at peak but but but … denigrating the electorate of Clacton, and of course the credibility of Reform as a party.

I am totally neutral in this however, I do not like to see voters being told they are poor, they deserved who they voted for ad infinitim and not in a nice manner.

Wanting CB to win is simply not the same as expecting him to win. Mostly I think we just hoped he got a good result which he did. There’s a qualitative difference between denigrating Reform and criticising the voters of Clacton. The former is justified, the e latter not so but there’s understandable exasperation But meanwhile carry on with your brightened morning. Fancy it taking this topic to do that. Meanwhile and you can save this for 3 years time I know beyond doubt that NF will never be PM and he may not even be an MP in a few months time.

Oh they know that they are poor - that is why they voted for Farage.

No other party has answered their needs.

The fact that Farage definitely won’t is neither here nor there.

They simply want their lives to change.

There is something rather odd about established parties refusing to contest Clacton and then commentators diminishing Reform’s victory because there was little opposition.

You cannot refuse to enter the ring and then complain that the winner had an easy fight.

Love him or loathe him, they still haven’t discovered how to make the bloody man give up - because he will not give up.
Vote Reform! 🇬🇧

I will explain why this thread has brightened my morning. It has amused me, not in a happy way, but I could have predicted the reactions beforehand.

I have read all the previous threads in the Clacton by-election, on the whole they were pro Count Bin Face winning.

Now we are at peak but but but … denigrating the electorate of Clacton, and of course the credibility of Reform as a party.

I am totally neutral in this however, I do not like to see voters being told they are poor, they deserved who they voted for ad infinitim and not in a nice manner.

Of course this was always a comedy election. Farage throwing his toys out of the pram for no good reason. He won’t even talk to Nick Ferrari.

Allsorts

Exactly FGT.
It is obviously who the people of Clacton want, whatever anyone else thinks, you can't argue with that.
People obviously want change, unless you think the people of Clacton are not of sound mind.

I don't think the people in Clacton who supported him the first time round were ever really likely to desert him, in spite of the media attention over the donation. It might even have been that very media attention that won him the extra votes.

Whether those who voted for him want 'change' is debatable, some might, but Clacton has struggling businesses and a seasonal holiday economy, as well as it being one of the most economically 'challenged' constituencies in the UK. The people of Clacton - being of sound mind recognise that they need urgent representation in Parliament. It's a community pretty desperate for economic regeneration, and based on NF's pitch when he first arrived - " Clacton is ignored, but my high profile will force the government to put you on the map." - they were hardly likely to select a novelty party and they had no other major party to choose from.

I think the resounding success narrative fails; local business owners and residents have expressed frustration that NF is rarely in Clacton; he mentioned his constituency only 4 times in Parliament, but flew to the US to support Trump 8 times. Small businesses, shopkeepers, etc, have openly complained that he treats Clacton as a media-backdrop rather than doing the hard slog of an MP.

But what choice did they have? He was, basically, their only choice.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The more upset the left get, the happier I am.

Casdon 😁
You have expensive tastes. Good job I won’t be buying a bottle!

This thread has brightened up my morning.

We had a friend in the trade and got a good deal on a few bottles 🤫

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The more upset the left get, the happier I am.

Casdon 😁
You have expensive tastes. Good job I won’t be buying a bottle!

Of course you are.

The more upset the left get, the happier I am.

Casdon 😁
You have expensive tastes. Good job I won’t be buying a bottle!

Casdon

I’ve got a bottle in already FGT2, panic not. My favourite is Krug by the way.

Oh yes🍾🍾🍾 we had Krug for the youngest two children’s Christening.

Maremia

Wonder where Farage will deliver his victory speech?
Obviously not in Clacton.
'I came first in a competition against 30 comedy acts'.

He delivered it this morning (not sure where in Essex exactly) to his supporters and campaign team, it was shown on ITV Breakfast News.

I’ve got a bottle in already FGT2, panic not. My favourite is Krug by the way.

Wonder where Farage will deliver his victory speech?
Obviously not in Clacton.
'I came first in a competition against 30 comedy acts'.