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Dame Jenni Murray died due to dazzling headlights

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Fallingstar Thu 27-Aug-26 16:26:47

MT62

“ I don’t do public transport as it’s too expensive.
Pity I can’t get a free pass as I would definitely give up my diesel car.”

I think I read your post about this or similar. Perhaps Burnham whilst empowering more English councils can insist the age for free bus passes be set at 65 and not pensionable age which by my reckoning is now 67.
If other parts of the UK can do this then English councils should follow their example.

MT62 Thu 27-Aug-26 16:17:22

Fallingstar

Is not great that countless drivers will not want to drive in the dark especially seeing as in a few short months time it will start to go dark at 3.30/4pm.
We are used to public transport now because we have no car, but it is hard in the winter months and we find ourselves getting a taxi instead.
Very unfair.

I don’t do public transport as it’s too expensive.
Pity I can’t get a free pass as I would definitely give up my diesel car.

MT62 Thu 27-Aug-26 16:15:12

Fallingstar

I meant very unfair for drivers giving up driving in the dark not ourselves having to take public transport.

Yes you are right. If I went to see my friend it would cost me £12, as I need to take two buses each way.
If the fares were reduced to a pound it would only cost me £4.
Shame really as the buses are always empty at that time round our way.

MT62 Thu 27-Aug-26 16:11:14

If they made the bus fares a pound after 6 in the winter time, I definitely would go out & about if lived on my own.
I am ok my hubby will drive at night.

Fallingstar Thu 27-Aug-26 16:10:20

I meant very unfair for drivers giving up driving in the dark not ourselves having to take public transport.

Fallingstar Thu 27-Aug-26 16:09:16

Is not great that countless drivers will not want to drive in the dark especially seeing as in a few short months time it will start to go dark at 3.30/4pm.
We are used to public transport now because we have no car, but it is hard in the winter months and we find ourselves getting a taxi instead.
Very unfair.

MT62 Thu 27-Aug-26 16:07:03

I have told my mum if she ever goes into hospital there is no way I could visit at night.
The high ways have taken out all the lights on our stretch of the motorway so I just can’t see to drive.
The thing is if there is an accident & there is plenty, they have to get the helicopter out to shine a light down so that the ambulance can see what the heck they are doing.
How much does that cost?
Crazy!

Sarnia Thu 27-Aug-26 16:05:54

Greyduster

Crossed post sarnia.

Shame our evening activities are curtailed, isn't it?

Sarnia Thu 27-Aug-26 16:04:34

Fallingstar

There was supposed to be an investigation made by road safety associations like the AA but not sure what became of this.
Maybe they will have to invent goggles like those we wore to look at the eclipse to wear when driving - sarcasm btw am not being serious.
Is it that drivers are not dipping their headlights or is it because even when dipped they are still like searchlights??
I don’t drive so haven’t a clue but my DH did up until 2 years ago when he suffered a stroke, but before that he had given up driving in the dark due to dazzling headlights.

In reply to drivers not dipping their lights, a neighbour told me that many of today's cars have automatic beams. They sense an oncoming car so the beam should dip, then when the road ahead is clear, it reverts to full beam again. I have flashed my lights at drivers to remind them to dip their headlights only to find they ARE dipped. Full beam is like a searchlight. I have given up night driving since last Christmas because of this.

Greyduster Thu 27-Aug-26 16:03:31

Crossed post sarnia.

Greyduster Thu 27-Aug-26 16:02:34

It’s not only drivers who don’t dip their headlights - this facility is automatic function in most modern cars these days - it people like me who drive small cars that are low to the ground that are in the most danger from large 4x4s. Their lights dazzle you whether they are dipped or not. It’s the main reason that I don’t drive in the dark anymore.

MT62 Thu 27-Aug-26 16:02:00

Oh is the main lights now causing the issue?
I never drive at night now, so wouldn’t know.
The odd time my husband has driven, I do actually think a high beam has been left on & say so.
But years ago it was definitely the high beam left on by the odd driver on the by-pass.
Whilst we are on about lights, my hubby agrees with me you can barely see indicators as they are so tiny, especially during the day!

Sarnia Thu 27-Aug-26 16:00:05

It likely refers to the glaring LED lights on newer vehicles.
I drive a small car so oncoming traffic with these lights are blinding and following traffic with these lights are equally as bad as they reflect off my driver's mirror.
I made the decision last Christmas not to bother with night driving any more due to these lights.
Nothing will be done as it is cheaper for car manufacturers to install LED lights.

Fallingstar Thu 27-Aug-26 15:51:13

There was supposed to be an investigation made by road safety associations like the AA but not sure what became of this.
Maybe they will have to invent goggles like those we wore to look at the eclipse to wear when driving - sarcasm btw am not being serious.
Is it that drivers are not dipping their headlights or is it because even when dipped they are still like searchlights??
I don’t drive so haven’t a clue but my DH did up until 2 years ago when he suffered a stroke, but before that he had given up driving in the dark due to dazzling headlights.

BoggledMind Thu 27-Aug-26 15:33:24

MT62

Do you mean people leaving their high beam on? That should be illegal.
I used to drive down the A49 to see my sister. First thing I would do when I arrived was to nip to her bathroom to vomit due to a blinding headache, caused by other drivers selfishness of not turning their high beams off.

It's not just high beams, it's badly adjusted lights and the new, brighter LED lights that are a lot brighter. There's supposed to be a study being conducted into the issue but these lights shouldn't have been fitted in the first place. Years ago there was a legal limit on the wattage of bulbs permitted on public roads but I don't know if this still exists.

MT62 Thu 27-Aug-26 15:11:23

Do you mean people leaving their high beam on? That should be illegal.
I used to drive down the A49 to see my sister. First thing I would do when I arrived was to nip to her bathroom to vomit due to a blinding headache, caused by other drivers selfishness of not turning their high beams off.

Fallingstar Thu 27-Aug-26 14:36:40

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It has been established that Dame Jenni Murray died in March due to sustaining injuries to her rib cage in a collision caused by dazzling headlights from an oncoming vehicle, which caused broncopneumonia.
Have long argued that dazzling headlights are a danger, and as we move towards darker nights it will cause havoc yet again with motorists. This death we know about but am sure there will be others. And it isn’t just because of a motorists age, both my DDs and SiLs have complained about it, especially one DD who suffers with migraine brought on by bright lights and has on more than one occasion had to pull off the road and take meds for a migraine and waited for the flashing aura to stop before driving again.
Surely headlights can be made safer than this.