Masked protesters block Port of Dover

Thank you GG13, different criteria.

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Maremia

The point they made is that they were not removed by the police, or arrested, or handcuffed, or carried away to a cell.
Was this a 'protest' or some sort of a testing the waters, trial run?
I think we may find out.

Why should they have been arrested, handcuffed or carried away to a cell ?

We have the right to peaceful protest in the U.K.

Blocking roads is an arrestable offence. See the story I posted earlier about the Just Stop Oil protestors arrested for blocking what were probably the same roads as Saturday's lot blocked

And yet Extinction Rebellion's pink boat blocked Oxford Circus in central London for 5 days and was celebrated by the likes of Emma Thompson who flew over first class from USA. I don't remember her or any of the others being arrested?

Just looking up Daniel Thomas on Google, but caught sight of, from Sky, 'Police response to Dover protests set to come under scrutiny'.

Black and red together oh dear me how shocking

I think that much depends on whether a demonstration has been notified to the police or not.

Neither the Just Stop Oil one that I referenced, nor yesterday's had been notified.

And yet Extinction Rebellion's pink boat blocked Oxford Circus in central London for 5 days and was celebrated by the likes of Emma Thompson who flew over first class from USA. I don't remember her or any of the others being arrested?

Why should Emma Thompson have been arrested?

MaizieD do you really think ER notified the police they were going to park a big pink boat in Oxford Circus for 5 days, and the police replied "OK, thanks for letting us know"?

MaizieD

^And yet Extinction Rebellion's pink boat blocked Oxford Circus in central London for 5 days and was celebrated by the likes of Emma Thompson who flew over first class from USA. I don't remember her or any of the others being arrested?^

Why should Emma Thompson have been arrested?

Because she was part of a protest that blocked roads? Was she less liable than the other participants? You were the one who raised that it is an arrestable offence.

So, questions ARE being asked about the policing.
Was notification given ahead of the protest?
No, don't expect you to know the answer. Just giving a flavour of points to ponder.

Rosie51

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Maremia

The point they made is that they were not removed by the police, or arrested, or handcuffed, or carried away to a cell.
Was this a 'protest' or some sort of a testing the waters, trial run?
I think we may find out.

Why should they have been arrested, handcuffed or carried away to a cell ?

We have the right to peaceful protest in the U.K.

Blocking roads is an arrestable offence. See the story I posted earlier about the Just Stop Oil protestors arrested for blocking what were probably the same roads as Saturday's lot blocked

And yet Extinction Rebellion's pink boat blocked Oxford Circus in central London for 5 days and was celebrated by the likes of Emma Thompson who flew over first class from USA. I don't remember her or any of the others being arrested?

There definitely were arrests- 680 in total.

Google Sky News article- Extinction Rebellion:680 arrests as police aim for business as usual.

A Metropolitan police spokesperson was quoted " One thing that is unusual about this demonstration is the willingness of those participating to rearrested and their lack of resistance to the arrests".

Can you imagine how intimidating it would have been to local people and holiday makers about to board ferries? Especially if there are children. They arrived on trains and the obnoxious Robinson was applauding it on social media

MartavTaurus

So where was the intelligence this time? We seem to be losing our grip on gathering information of upcoming protests with a view to containing them. If this sort of protest disrupts a town like Dover and the ferry port, the same could happen if they disrupted flights at Heathrow or trains at Eurostar next time. Policing needs to acquire this information in advance.

I think the MP for Dover must have read my post on here today at 11.18.14 regarding intelligence.

At 12. 21 he wrote The next step is ensuring we have a grip of this so there are no further surprises.

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Rosie51

MaizieD

And yet Extinction Rebellion's pink boat blocked Oxford Circus in central London for 5 days and was celebrated by the likes of Emma Thompson who flew over first class from USA. I don't remember her or any of the others being arrested?

Why should Emma Thompson have been arrested?

Because she was part of a protest that blocked roads? Was she less liable than the other participants? You were the one who raised that it is an arrestable offence.

Sorry?

Was she one of the road blockers?

Allegedly, some of those peaceful protesters have already been identified through face recognition technology.
Allegedly, a proportion of them are already 'known to the Police'
Surprised?

MT62

From what bits I saw it was a peaceful march straight through the police.
I didn’t see any violence. Some locals clapped & cheered.
On the whole, made a point, left to go home.

Admirable I suppose to many. But who are they under their masks?

It's terrifying that this has become normalised.

Maremia

Allegedly, some of those peaceful protesters have already been identified through face recognition technology.
Allegedly, a proportion of them are already 'known to the Police'
Surprised?

So, if as you say, a proportion of them were already known to the Police, who could recognise them from their database, why did the Police fail to use basic intelligence gathering to stop them before they reached the port? Too little, too late.

No idea, Martav/Taurus.
Part of a longer 'play'. perhaps? To see what they would actually do?
I believe more has been 'promised'.
As folk have said upthread, they have a right to protest peacefully?

mrsmeldrew

Can you imagine how intimidating it would have been to local people and holiday makers about to board ferries? Especially if there are children. They arrived on trains and the obnoxious Robinson was applauding it on social media

If I’d been there I would have been traumatised. Even seeing it on the tv sent shivers down my spine. It’s like living in a dystopian future but it’s happening now. Imo these organisations are using the boats to gain power but have a much more sinister agenda.

I think there was a similar incident in Portsmouth last night when one of those larger boats made the crossing. This time the protestors aren't in black with face coverings.

I've no time now to check because I'm helping with first day back-to-school runs, but that crossing isn't the usual short route, by many miles, is it? It must have taken all day.

Yes they were at Portsmouth last night, it will I think be a regular occurrence from now on.

I don’t. I think it will be like the stick the flags everywhere fad. It won’t make any difference to the boats arriving, but some will commit violent acts in protest and will be arrested, in the meantime.

If large groups of men can be mobilised in this way going under the radar and undetected by the police what else can they be mobilised to do?

So amusing that many of the men appeared to be wearing a burkha, part of the clothing that many of them are so scared of.

Himdowntheroad

So amusing that many of the men appeared to be wearing a burkha, part of the clothing that many of them are so scared of.

Where do you read this misinformation?

stick the flags everywhere

Do you mean Operation Raise the Colours?

Reclaiming our heritage and all that?