Assisted Dying Bill falls

It’s a tragic situation isn’t it Iam. My friend went ‘to hell and back’ but is at peace now.

I read the same about Esther R. She had hoped the bill would go through last year, so she may have been able to end her life, with dignity, at home with her family.

Now she is too frail to travel to Dignitas😢

I am in complete agreement with your post Fairislecable.

I think this issue will return.

The palliative care was good other than that night when he clearly needed more morphine. The night nurse was grumpy and told me he’s had his morphine for tonight. I reminded her though he was on a stroke ward, which was here focus, stage four cancer had caused the series of strokes and he was increasingly distressed, clearly in pain. She wasn’t pleased saying she’d have to call a doctor. The doc prescribed morphine. The following morning he was fitted with a morphine pump so the pain was managed

I read that Esther R is ready for Dignitas but her body isn’t strong enough for the journey.

“It shouldn’t be either or”

I agree Iam64.

I’m sorry your late husband had to go through that, and you and your daughter had to experience his distress. I’ve just lost a good friend in similar circumstances. Her palliative care was excellent - but it could only do so much.

The problem with ‘having’ to go to Dignitas is that one is ‘forced’ to go whilst one is still able to travel, which may be earlier than is ‘necessary’.

Good palliative care and the choice to die when that no longer eases the suffering would be the humane approach IMO.

I feel conflicted about this, I believe someone in sound mind should be able to choose but what if unscrupulous people close the person with a terminal diagnosis, who have their eyes on an inheritance, try to put pressure on the person who is dying to do it sooner rather than later. And though some die in terrible pain others may feel able to carry on living with some quality of life until near the end.
Am not totally against it but not totally convinced either.

Allsorts

Totally agree. Hate to think of anyone dying in pain, good palliative care a must for enveryone.

It's not either/or it's both/and. And I'm afraid anyone who thinks we'll see more resources going into palliative care as a result of this is going to be sadly disappointed.

Many years ago I was in the room when the very kind doctor administered the morphine shot and said “ at peace now”. This practice is no longer done and therefore we are left with no help at all

That is not the case!

Grandma70s

I’m horrified and very surprised. Palliative care can only do so much, and nobody should be prevented from choosing to die.

But the point is that at the moment it is a complete lottery to be able to access high quality palliative care which CAN do a great deal. Without access to a guaranteed valid choice between good palliative care and assisted dying there is not a balanced choice for people to make and that is wrong. Plus there were so many loophole potentials in this rushed and poorly crafted bill.

This is a terrible injustice forcing the attitudes of one set of people against others.

If the bill went through it means those who were against it could choose not to use euthanasia. Those who were for the bill have had their right to choose denied.

We appear to have not moved on since the dark ages, we treat animals better than we treat humans.

Many years ago I was in the room when the very kind doctor administered the morphine shot and said “ at peace now”. This practice is no longer done and therefore we are left with no help at all.

It shouldnt be either or. My husband died slowly over eight days. Doctors excellent but were clear he wasn’t stable enough to come home to die, he might die on the journey. Our daughters were with me throughout. Day five one said to me, mum this is so wrong, you wouldn’t let one of your dogs suffer like this. Despite it all we stayed with him and we remain relieved we were able to be with him.
I have a DNR and LPA in place. Lisa Ann , digits on my list as well

Guess I‘ll start saving for Dignitas …

I’m horrified and very surprised. Palliative care can only do so much, and nobody should be prevented from choosing to die.

Totally agree. Hate to think of anyone dying in pain, good palliative care a must for enveryone.