Thank you for both posts Graphite. I have been busy all day so haven't seen all the threads.
It is fairer for all areas to share the burden of housing asylum seekers. Poorer northern areas have had many of them so far.
Piddington don't want them so are asking for somewhere else to take them. Fair? I don't think so.
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(312 Posts)No surprise that their symbolic referendum returned a vote to leave the UK. It won't make one jot of difference but it doesn't hurt to let AB know how strongly some people feel about the imminent arrival of 1,500 migrants on the doorstep of a village with 350 inhabitants.
AB has said there needs to be fairness in where these migrants are housed and says the boat arrivals are at a 7 year low. Boy, is he missing the point. Reduced boat arrivals or not, what many people are appalled at is the length of time it takes to vet those already here and the areas chosen for them to live while they wait are often inappropriate.
I really feel for the Piddington residents, especially women and young girls.
Not one person has commented on my post from earlier today, that Cherwell in Oxfordshire, the subject of the Piddington protest, until now, has taken so few asylum seekers.
According to Right Move, the average house price in Piddington (Cherwell) over the last year was £577,000.
Proportionately, second only to Glasgow, Hyndburn in Lancashire takes the highest number of asylum seekers.
Average house price in Accrington (Hyndburn) last year was £154,000.
No prizes for guessing which area accommodates most asylum seekers per 10,000 of population.
Hyndburn accommodates 50 people per 10,000 of population with a total of 426. Cherwell accommodates just 6 per 10,000 with a total of 106.
You can see this pattern throughout the UK. The only outliers are where asylum seekers are accommodated in military barracks in middle-class areas, Wethersfield average house price £440,000 and Crowborough £470,000 and now the proposed MOD Bicester site.
• If asylum seekers are accommodated in hotels, people protest.
• If asylum seekers are accommodated in family houses or HMOs, people protest.
• If asylum seekers are accommodated in military barracks in middle class areas, people protest.
We can’t just stop people coming as they have a right to claim asylum and there is no legal way to do so from outside the UK.
Even Reform’s new Head of Policy has admitted that it would take a full five year term of government to find a resolution - not the internationally illegal Operation Fortress the party announced a few weeks ago.
There are 15 asylum claims for every 10,000 of UK population compared to 18 claims for every 10,000 of population across the EU so the UK does not receive proportionately more claims.
Is it possible on this forum to have a sensible discussion about the best policy for accommodating asylum seekers fairly across the UK until such time as their claims are settled?
Very unfair to that family, who were local residents.
Maremia
All hail as well to the upstanding citizens of Piddington who doxxed that mixed race family?
Wasn't it one citizen who leaked the information, at least that's what I read? If so it's a bit unfair to tarnish all of them.
Maremia
Don't care if they are far right thugs or far left thugs.
If the justice system finds them guilty of assault, then they are convicted thugs.
Good luck with calling out the justice system. 😃
👍👍👍
Maremia
Think it's the term used when people give out addresses, usually on the internet, with malicious intent.
There are plans to make it illegal.
You are completely correct! It is called “doxxing”
And yes, when there are multiple Threads, that keep rising and sinking, so easy to post on the wrong one.
Think it's the term used when people give out addresses, usually on the internet, with malicious intent.
There are plans to make it illegal.
I don't think doxxed is the right terminology here Maremia.
As you can see.... I've posted on the wrong thread 🤣
All hail as well to the upstanding citizens of Piddington who doxxed that mixed race family?
Don't care if they are far right thugs or far left thugs.
If the justice system finds them guilty of assault, then they are convicted thugs.
Good luck with calling out the justice system. 😃
Typo again Piddington.
All hail the feisty folk of Paddington, population 358, with global coverage.
I say listen to the concerns of the people of Piddington, it not fair whats been expected of them.
Newts not nests
I have read in the Sunday Times. It being rather ironic that the plan may be delayed indefinitely by the discovery of protected great-crested nests, badgers and bats on the site. Quintessentially British.
Peacelilydilly
He wasn't wearing the Patriot Platform uniform so it was untrue. I'm sick of the left calling people who don't agree with them far right thugs that's why I called this out.
Those who got arrested and charged and were only there because of the Patriots Platform call for folks to attend, clearly are “far right thugs”, or do you support their action too?
Peacelilydilly
He wasn't wearing the Patriot Platform uniform so it was untrue. I'm sick of the left calling people who don't agree with them far right thugs that's why I called this out.
If you say so!
Some may interpret this differently.
Each to their own.
He wasn't wearing the Patriot Platform uniform so it was untrue. I'm sick of the left calling people who don't agree with them far right thugs that's why I called this out.
Peacelilydilly
Actually he wasn't a patriot platform member and no where does it say he was, he was just an ordinary protestor as far as I can see. So no convictions for patriot platform.
Oh good grief. He wouldn’t even have know about the protest or been there if he wasn’t following the group.
It’s pretty obvious to almost everyone that, whilst he’s not paid his subs, he was there to support the group.
But if it makes you feel good, goodness only knows why? See below.
*No high-ranking organizers or official leaders of Patriot Platform, including its founder Daniel Thomas ("Danny Tommo"), have been arrested or charged in connection with the Portsmouth or Dover incidents.
However, multiple individuals who responded to the group’s direct mobilization and participated in the Eastney Marina disorder have been arrested and charged:
Daniel Thomas (Leader):
While Thomas organized and live-streamed the Portsmouth protest—and was widely mocked online for wading into the sea shouting warnings at emergency workers—he has not been arrested.
Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood explicitly stated that Thomas and his organization will face "the full force of the law" if they commit crimes, but legal action so far has targeted the individual rioters rather than the leadership.
The Portsmouth Arrests & Charges: Hampshire & Isle of Wight Constabulary have treated the active rioters as localized criminal offenders.
Following the 6 September 2026 incident, several participants have faced the courts:
Del Leon Somerville (42) and Justin Dixon (50) both pleaded guilty to violent disorder.
Bradley Pinnock (22) was charged with violent disorder.
A 16-year-old boy was also arrested on suspicion of violent disorder linked to the same Eastney Marina incident.
Leadership Distancing
In an apparent bid to protect the central organization from direct legal liability, Daniel Thomas issued an official statement via social media ahead of subsequent demonstrations in Portsmouth.
He explicitly announced that "no organiser, representative, or affiliate of Patriot Platform" would attend or take part in further events, leaving local crowds to face the newly implemented police crackdowns on face coverings and public obstruction alone. source BBC*
Back to what is happening in Oxfordshire and the country as a whole.
For those interested in statistics and facts about asylum seekers, especially as they compare the UK to the rest of Europe, here’s the latest and very comprehensive House of Commons Library paper published this month.
researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01403/SN01403.pdf
To give context to the row over MOD Bicester, it’s worth looking at the supplementary chart, in Excel spreadsheet form, about asylum seeker accommodation. Link on page 28 of the paper.
The paper gives a regional overview but the spreadsheet has a lot more detail. You can look up your own area and see how many asylum seekers are accommodated per 10,000 of population and what percentage of the total population are housed.
There’s initial accommodation (hotels and military bases), dispersal accommodation (houses, flats, HMOs) and contingency accommodation (hotels usually, where there is limited availability of initial and dispersal accommodation).
Oxfordshire currently accommodates a remarkably low number of asylum seekers. The Cherwell district which covers Banbury, Bicester (including Piddington) and Kidlington accommodates just 6 asylum seekers per 10,000 of population. The population is 170,426.
Top three places are Glasgow which accommodates 60 people per 10,000 of population, Hyndburn (east of Blackburn) 49 per 10,000 and Braintree 48 per 10,000 (which has RAF Wethersfield).
In 2025, there were around 15 asylum applicants for every 10,000 people resident in the UK. Across the 27 EU member states, there were 18 asylum applications for every 10,000 people.
The number of arrivals this year is substantially down compared to 2025, as the graphic shows.
I'm happy to be proved wrong.
Actually he wasn't a patriot platform member and no where does it say he was, he was just an ordinary protestor as far as I can see. So no convictions for patriot platform.
Peacelilydilly
I'm not looking I don't believe there has been any convictions, its posters on here who have said they have and seeing some are always quoting facts I thought they would be able to produce actual evidence, obviously they can't because there isn't any I don't think but I'm ok to be proven wrong but don't lose any sleep over it.
Perhaps you might like to re-think your philosophy.
Some of us check facts before we post.
I often make mistakes, quite happy to own that, we are all human, after all. We are all flawed. 
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