Sir Ranulph Fiennes

A fresh DoLs is required every time somebody moves care settings though, so even if there was not one in place originally there should be for subsequent placements, and now if he is restrained in any way.

There you go Casdon. The step son can claim whatever he chooses to claim in the media. His comments have certainly has stirred up huge speculation. If step son is right that means every body, including the Police, care facility, CQC, LA and every care staff member currently involved in Ranulph's care, including GP, have failed in their statutory safeguarding duties.

LPoA grants his wife legal decision making authority over health and financial affairs. However the wife with LPoA has no lead right to arbitrarily or unreasonably ban family or friend visitors unless it is proven to be in Ranulph's best interests or necessary for safeguarding.

Registered care facilities, registered health and social are practitioners and LAs are aware of this and must surely, be aware of media focus on Ranulph and statements made by step son et al? They must consider Ranulph's best interests and escalate statutory safeguarding process if they have any safeguarding concerns including about the wife- just as the care home in Wales did (though in that circumstance it was the home found to have failed to have the right protocols in place and the wife was right to give instructions, ie of the standard of daily care she wanted for her husband).

It isn't from what I have seen the stepsons comments on social media it is the friend of the family.

His healthcare and room may well be fine and his physical needs met, that’s all Police will care about.
The fact that none of his other family or any old friends are allowed to visit him won’t be taken into consideration as his wife is paying the bills.
The bottom line is that care homes want to be paid.

The DoLs assessment explicitly considers social interaction and contact with others Oreo.

Galaxy

It isn't from what I have seen the stepsons comments on social media it is the friend of the family.

I referred to step son's own comments Galaxy, not what social media is saying.

Seems like you haven't seen the step son's comments today? He did an exclusive interview with the Guardian....

Oreo

His healthcare and room may well be fine and his physical needs met, that’s all Police will care about.
The fact that none of his other family or any old friends are allowed to visit him won’t be taken into consideration as his wife is paying the bills.
The bottom line is that care homes want to be paid.

Not the case Oreo- the Police have clear statutory safeguarding responsibilities to protect children and vulnerable adults- under section 42 Care Act 2014.

The police also act as statutory partner on Local Safeguarding boards and have a legal duty to share information and participate in enquiries about adults with care and support needs who are at risk of abuse of neglect.

The step son has made clear damaging allegations against his mother, e.g that she is illegally denying her husband his liberties, he mentioned DoLs specifically- in the national press and Cheshire Police have contacted the step son to discuss his concerns. CP must now share such concern information with all local statutory safeguarding partners and investigate accordingly.

Cheshire Police must now exercise their statutory responsibilities, investigate all concerns and share information with their local statutory safeguarding partners. Not "slap dash" at all as the step son quotes in his exclusive interview with the Guardian today.

Who pays the bill in the care home is irrelevant to safeguarding responsibilities and investigations. Also regardless of care homes evidently seeking to get bills paid- they are legally obliged to maintain adequate safeguarding processes, escalate any safeguarding concerns in order to register and have its licence to operate as a care home with the health regulator. Without this licence they would be illegally operating and closed down by the Local Authority.

The police evidently checked the care home's licence and regulations as is stated Ranulph is being cared for in an appropriate facility with appropriate oversight ( ie the health regulator) It would be in breach of its statutory safeguarding responsibilities if the police had not checked such matters.

The friend of the family has quite an astounding backstory. He did a similar campaign exposing the alleged crimes of a mountaineer, he also seems to have been involved in exposing nazi war criminals. I have been down a complete rabbit hole reading about it.

Eleanor Roosevelt: "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

The brightest people I know discuss trivia at times. Those who are not so bright possibly cant understand that.

Was Eleanor Roosevelt an authority on minds?

Galaxy

The brightest people I know discuss trivia at times. Those who are not so bright possibly cant understand that.

These posts, however, don't refer to trivia. They refer to malicious gossip. But perhaps you support that and feel it shows the gossips to be a group of the brightest people?

Casdon

The DoLs assessment explicitly considers social interaction and contact with others Oreo.

And you know for a fact that assessment has taken place? The problem for dementia residents, as I know all too well is that they will often say anything, many things are far from the truth.

If you’re feeling superior to ‘the gossips’ DAR don’t join in maybe.
As for Eleanor Roosevelt ….what a patronising and condescending woman she must have been.

Yes,

‘Detective Chief Superintendent Claire Jesson said: "Police and partner agencies are aware of the concerns raised and are satisfied that Sir Ranulph Fiennes is living in an appropriate setting with suitable care and professional oversight.

"No immediate safeguarding concerns have been identified at this time.

"Any new information received will be assessed and considered through the appropriate multi-agency arrangements.’

I work in care homes, and the difference in what should be done and what is done are two different things I can assure you.
If the bills are paid on time is the main factor.

I know a dementia patient who was interviewed by local TV.
The family was astounded, as they didnt know anything about it until she appeared on the news.
The family member said to me afterwards, that they were lucky they had caught her on a good day.
On a bad day, she would have told them a load of old rubbish!

There won’t be anything wrong with his care but as a dementia resident he isn’t in a position to demand that his friends and family visit him.

I know about DoLs assessments. The DCS would not have said that she was satisfied, unless there was a DoLs in place, particularly when the issue raised by family members and friends is about an aspect of the DoLs.

Casdon

I know about DoLs assessments. The DCS would not have said that she was satisfied, unless there was a DoLs in place, particularly when the issue raised by family members and friends is about an aspect of the DoLs.

That doesn’t make it alright that his family and old friends are not being told where he is, can’t visit or take gifts or even send a birthday card.Including the King!

I’m not getting involved in speculation, just the published details of what his situation is.

DaisyAnneReturns

Eleanor Roosevelt: "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

What rubbish - I dont care if it was on the tablets Moses brought down the mountain - its still tosh

Yes DAR you got me, I am a terrible person and you are one of the good guys.

😂😇😈

This happens more than people realise.
Money is the root of all evil