Anyone yet watched the ITV Reform “expose”

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Chocolatelovinggran

Indeed, LemonJam. In my posts, I refer to safeguarding and am astonished to see online continuing support for Reform, in the premise that they will " stop the boats", and, thereby " keep our women and children safe".
Irony at it's finest .

Irony at its finest and worst I agree. Here we go- It was only a matter of time before such things surfaced.

This is how Reform UK dealt with a female member of staff who made a complaint of sexual harassment in the work place in May earlier this year. But as Reform UK failed to manage her complaint appropriately the female member of staff escalated her complaint to the police and to to Local Authority for proper investigation and support. Reported in Guardian newspaper today:

A Reform UK mayor is under police investigation for allegedly showing “naked and sexualised” images of himself to a female member of staff Luke Campbell, mayor of Hull and East Yorkshire, is understood to have been questioned under caution by Humberside police earlier this month. Campbell allegedly showed a senior female colleague four fully naked and sexualised images of himself in May.

The woman said she had felt “shocked, embarrassed and humiliated” and claimed she had been forced out of her job soon after, according to documents submitted as part of an internal grievance procedure at Hull and East Yorkshire combined authority -HEYCA. A Reform UK spokesperson said: “Luke firmly denies the allegations. They come from a disgruntled employee attempting to leverage a settlement in a meritless workplace dispute Nadine Dorries, a former Conservative minister and now a Reform UK member, also came to Campbell’s defence also by claiming that the “sexualised” image was in fact a 2013 magazine cover showing the former boxer posing naked from the waist up after he won gold at the 2012 London Olympics.

However, that appears to be at odds with witness testimony submitted as part of an internal grievance procedure at HEYCA, where Campbell is mayor. In one document, corroborated by the Guardian newspaper, a senior female colleague said Campbell had called her over to a computer screen, where she was shown “several naked and sexualised images” of the mayor. A separate witness said they saw a naked man with a tattoo in one of the images, whereas no tattoo is visible on the magazine front cover. The main complainant said in a witness statement: “I was deliberately exposed to naked and sexualised images involving the mayor in the workplace, without my consent, and was laughed at when I was visibly embarrassed. In my view, this was unwanted conduct of a sexual nature which violated my dignity and created a humiliating, degrading and offensive working environment.” In a separate document, a second colleague said they had felt “uneasy” after allegedly seeing Campbell and two male colleagues ushering over a female officer to look at his laptop, which showed an image of a naked man with a tattoo. The Guardian understands that this second employee recalled comments then being made about Campbell’s tattoo and that they saw the mayor lift his shirt to show the tattoo.

About three weeks after the alleged incident, the female officer, who was working as a contractor (like James Orr and Dan Dukes et al) but had accepted the offer of a permanent role, was allegedly told on a Teams call that the offer had been withdrawn.

A spokesperson for HEYCA confirmed that a police investigation was under way. He said: “As with all public authorities, the combined authority has a standards process that can be engaged to deal with complaints about members and a complaints procedure that can be used to deal with complaints about officers.The standards process and the complaints procedure must be carried out in a fair and independent manner Humberside police has been contacted for comment”.

So facts known so far *male mayor still in post. Female member of staff who made complaint let go via a TEAMS call without any independent investigation commissioned by Reform UK. Instead Farage supported the word of the male mayor. Nadine Norris has now supported male mayor’s position publicly without any independent investigation evidence available to her seeking to undermine and ignore the witness testimony of the female member of staff in question and 2 female witnesses present at the time. Whilst a police investigation ongoing. This female decided to go to Police and HEYCA for support. She also of course, in due course, has the option of taking a case to an industrial tribunal making a claim for unfair or constructive dismissal by Reform UK (unlimited £damages) if HEYCO and police uphold her complaint.

All parties have some bad apples. However I do expect all UK political parties to be professional by having proper HR processes and proper Safeguarding processes in place to protect employees in the workplace. This ack of Reform UK to see the HR need and failure to commission an independent investigation in such circumstances is of concern. It shows how unprofessional and inexperienced Reform UK currently is thus not ready and unfit to govern the country.

Watch this space.

AGAA4

I was shocked when a Reform voter who knows about all the things they have done said that it was all made up by the media just to cast a slur on Reform.
You can't get through to people who think this way.

The timing's wrong too, after the party conferences Reform have really fallen away in the polls.

If it was just made-up propoganda (which it seems obvious it isn't if you watch it) it would've been aired around the time of the council elections in May when Reform were riding high - but as it was genuine, not manufactured, the timing depended on the year of following them finishing & the consequent legal niceties being completed.

If Reform voters or Reform officials think the ITV documentary is made up to cast a slur or in anyway unfairly biased or factually inaccurate make a complaint to Ofcom.

Of course that would result in a proper investigation. It would also run the risk of an Ofcom public statement in due course most likely confirming that the programme:
1) did not breach any broadcasting standards but
2) also was 100% factually accurate.

Farage works and makes £ huge sums from broadcasting year on year. He is fully aware of broadcasting standards. He would be the first to go public if he felt any broadcasting standards were breached. On the contrary- so far he is deafeningly silent.

LemonJam

If Reform voters or Reform officials think the ITV documentary is made up to cast a slur or in anyway unfairly biased or factually inaccurate make a complaint to Ofcom.

Of course that would result in a proper investigation. It would also run the risk of an Ofcom public statement in due course most likely confirming that the programme:
1) did not breach any broadcasting standards but
2) also was 100% factually accurate.

Farage works and makes £ huge sums from broadcasting year on year. He is fully aware of broadcasting standards. He would be the first to go public if he felt any broadcasting standards were breached. On the contrary- so far he is deafeningly silent.

I shall look forward to the “fallout” with interest.

I find it utterly horrifying that an entire political party has brought all of our political system into disrepute.

As everyone who also condemns this entire party states very clearly and plainly, plenty of our political parties have had some awful folk, MPs, advisors linked to every party, there are MPs who have been imprisoned, suspended and stepped down due to some pretty serious allegations, we’ve had MPs and party officials linked to money scandals, affairs and some serious deviant sexual scandals.

Never, in the history of our political system, has an entire party and their leader been linked with such awful ideology and massive dodgy donationsand misogyny.

In my opinion, this entire party is rotten to the core, is almost entirely responsible for our country’s division, and should be curtailed.

LemonJam

Of course that would result in a proper investigation. It would also run the risk of an Ofcom public statement in due course most likely confirming that the programme:
1) did not breach any broadcasting standards but
2) also was 100% factually accurate.

To those individuals who insist the recordings were fake, a report by Ofcom pronouncing it 100% accurate, would similarly be dismissed with, possibly, the accusation that it was a 'leftie' set-up. It's always assumed that opposition to Reform comes only from the left.

Farage can't remain silent. I've never heard him lost for words, he articulates clearly when it suits. He'll have to come forward at some point. I'm speculating that he might allude to an 'establishment campaign' against him in particular and Reform in general. The same 'establishment' that also ran an undercover investigation into Corbyn and the LP under him at that time.

If people believe an Ofcom investigation and subsequent report would be a 'left wing' stitch up if Reform supporters have made the complaint in the first place- would just show how brainwashed by propaganda and resolutely biased with fixed beliefs they are. No facts, evidence or reason could ever change their mind.

I still have hope, maybe misguided though I hope not, that the majority of the UK is not so brainwashed.

Matt Goodwin has even said on X in response that ITV is an " Establishment interest group that is trying to dismantle the party". 🤷‍♀️

Last time I looked ITV was a commercial broadcaster not an Establishment interest group! With people like Goodwin inside Reform UK making such comments the party already has its own worst enemies 😅 😅 The party just looks foolish as well as bad to the majority.....

Matt Goodwin's comments may be positively influencing Reform brainwashed supporters but more widely does his party a great disservice that will be seen in ever decreasing poll and vote numbers.

Watch this space and call me out if wrong.

LemonJam

Matt Goodwin's comments may be positively influencing Reform brainwashed supporters but more widely does his party a great disservice that will be seen in ever decreasing poll and vote numbers.

Watch this space and call me out if wrong.

I absolutely pray you’re right.

That's all that Matt Goodwin can say.

"He holds a BA (First Class Hons) in Politics and Contemporary History from the University of Salford, Manchester, an M.A. in Political Science and PhD in Political Science."

Nothing left in the tank.

I’ve just watched the itv programme. I expected it to expose racism, misogyny, bigoted views, the activists to be largely men with a tendency to foul language and sexist attitudes to women. My expectations weren’t set high enough were they.

I feel slightly sick at the extent of ignorant bigoted views expressed, with the knowledge they needed to express more moderate beliefs to win an election.

I’m joining the praying that LemonJam is right and support for Reform will decrease.

After seeing excerpts from this programme trailed before it was aired, I thought I had a good idea of what to expect but it was far worse. For me, the most revolting views were from the odious man who said something about "sniffing the chair" that a female party member had just sat in. He is the type of man who will class all immigrants as a threat to women and girls whilst expressing his own disgusting views about women.

As for Matt Goodwin, he is trying desperately to defend the indefensible. Why would ITV want to "dismantle" Reform UK? The Reform members in the film needed no encouragement to say what they said.

Where are all avid and vocal Reform supporters on this site? Mmmm

I just watched a news review on ITV where they were discussing the first response to the programme from Nigel Farage, who was holding a rally for his supporters today. Essentially there was no promise to investigate, but a deflection to all parties are the same, but Reform are being picked on due to the snobbery of ITV……..

The footage of the Reform press team working out how to respond to bad press was interesting. No surprises but I fear die hard Reform supporters will believe the deflections, minimisations and lies

Cossy

Where are all avid and vocal Reform supporters on this site? Mmmm

Impossible to defend, but I’m surprised none have had the moral integrity to call it out for what it is.

Cossy

Where are all avid and vocal Reform supporters on this site? Mmmm

Maybe their patriotism outweighs their disgust at this latest stuff?

Could be.

Not on this site, but I would seriously question anyone attempting to defend this expose, if they’ve actually watched it.

I think perhaps those who do support Reform on this site possibly haven’t watched the actual programme itself, I do understand why. It’s a horrible and hard watch and very clearly not a set up.

I don’t think anyone on this site, whatever their political persuasion, who actually watched the entire programme, would ever condone the rhetoric from those being filmed.

I have said this before, and I will re-state it, I would be condemning these people whichever political party it was, including the one I support.

It's almost Hallowe'en, so, may I dress up as Devil's Advocate?😈

If we are shocked, perhaps they are gutted?
This is after all the only Party that 'tells it how it is' and finding out who the Party really is, could be a betrayal.

Perhaps they need time to squirrel out the 'dirt' on other Parties, to show that it isn't only Reform?

Most probably, they are just so annoyed with these disclosures, and can't at the moment face a concerted GN pile on?

Or - reform supporters aren’t shocked or horrified ….

Well, that also could be.

Having heard the views of a Reform voter who has said and truly believes that Reform are being set up and lies told about them in the media will no doubt think this is fake.

Oh dear, as someone said the MAGA cult mentality.

Kandinsky

And if anyone has any statistics as to how many children these Reform men have abused and raped I’d be interested in seeing them.
Is it as many as the Rotherham rapists?

You’ve lost the argument when you bring whataboutary into a debate.

Kandinsky, can you clarify what you mean? So far as I’m aware, the Reform men shown on the itv expose haven’t been accused or convicted of sexually abusing children

Disgusting Sexism and misogyny were obvious in their statements and behaviour. I was very concerned when one man commented that if a young woman they’d met had been his daughter he’d have still been doing Thursday night bath time. References to body shape, breasts, fingering and sniffing a chair previously sat in by a young woman
Surely we’ve all seen men who cross sexual boundaries hiding in plain sight making or behaving like the predators they are