Shall we debate upon *Geraldine's* comment.......

Baggy - picture a sheep, gazing at a view. thought cloud coming out of its head. saying "oh, that's lovely".

Doesn't work, does it?

I rest my flipping case.

and why are you putting odd words on the end of threads?

Put them together like a jigsaw to make a sentence.

I know a happy sheep when I see one.

Baggy, I've got a flipping jobs list!!!

I'll do it too.

Yeah!

Baggy's

jangly I think we share something like 98% of our DNA with fruit flies so not too confident about higher than animals. I don't know anything about angels' DNA. Either way, I can't see a cluster of undifferentiated cells as anything other than, well, a cluster of undifferentiated cells.

I don't think you've been reading the latter part of the thread absent.

And I don't blame you one little bit!

I think people made up the notion of a soul to console themselves. Life nasty brutish and short for many. And to convince themselves that they weren't really going to die. Kept the masses quiet for centuries.
I have moments when I think people ought to have to have a licence to breed... rather than a right to have kids and then not look after them properly.

I have been reading it jangly, without following it, if you see what I mean. I just thought I'd return to the original subject. [tongue sticky out emoticon]

Right o. Fine by me.

As so often happens (though less often on gransnet than many other places) we have polarisation whilst important details are overlooked.
I have been a prescriber of the m.a.p.
There are 2 main reasons for keeping its prescription to medical & similarly trained prescribers. One is the "health education" reason already mentioned. The other is that there are some situations and some women with conditions who should not take it, or not in the easily available format.

I am interested in Geraldine's doctor friend:
Although not completely unethical, it is considered best practice not to prescribe for one's family & close friends.
In this version he is telling his daughters that they can take strong medication without a proper medical history being taken - that IS unethical.
Have they told him everything about drugs they take & symptoms they have?
In some ways he is being quite controlling because he is telling them they don't need to get help & advice from properly trained professionals like anyone else, but to take the medication he puts there for them.

I made sure that my children knew how to access emergency contraception & sexual health advice. I told them that even if they knew the nurse on duty as a friend of mine, I would not be told anything confidential.
I thought their sex lives were their own business, my job to give them information.

Just had a thought. If my son's then girlfriend had used the m.a.p. after the condom allegedly split, I wouldn't now have my beautiful and loving senior GD. But I'd still advise her to go for it. I don't doubt that I will have GGC some day but not yet, please!

Why not yet? Just asking. I don't want to be nosey but the thought just flew through my mind: why does it matter to you when your grandchildren have children?

It wasn't a friend of Geraldine. She is a journo and she interviewed the doctor.

Baggy, because she is 19 and still a student and needs to be able to complete her course. We are, and have always been, very close, owing to family circumstances which I won't go into at the moment.

I see. Thank you. I thought it would be something like that.