When everybody wants a bit of you......

Quick thinking is difficult when you're stressed though!

Quick thinking, gracesmum. That'd be all you needed!

I really should write out 100 times"I must not post when I have just had a c**p journey down the motorway in the pouring rain and a less than enthusiastic reception when I get home" !!!
Having read your kind comments I feel very 'umbled - you have had so much more to cope with so I will have another glass of something chilled and "chill"!
DH very sorry this morning - he had been feeling down because he realised when I was away that despite feeling a lot stronger, he isn't nearly as independent as he could be and it is beginning to get to him. Previously he was feeling too weak to notice, I think I can understand. But what can't be cured must be at least worked round and ultimately endured.
I have to dsay that when DD asked when she and her sister had been old enough to spend a week's holiday with Granny and Grandpa I was quick to retort "6 and 4". I think I may need to stay alert in that area and head it off at the pass!!

gracesmum, I think lots of us just keep going and going (duracell grans?) and, every now and again it gets to us. Take care of yourself you really have lot on your plate.

I have regular things that are MINE and I won't drop them unless a really dire emergency happens. I do my one day of voluntary work a week, where I work with 3 friends, and I also have lunch once a month with 2 other friends. They keep me sane (ish!)

AlisonMA - - what a nerve!!

I think it is just the way we are, we feel we need to be strong for everyone else and sometimes it breaks us. There is a very good small book called 'Depression, the Curse of the Strong' which says it all. Eventually the strong break down but the weak never do.

I strongly suspect that our own children will never take on as much as we have and will not try to be all things to all people.

I'm no longer trying all the time and find myself coping so much better. This is probably because I don't live near my GC. My DiL was most upset when we moved away because she said that when they had a baby they were planning for me to look after it while they went to work.

I can't say No either, gracesmum. Every time I feel like I've hit a brick wall I promise myself I will politely point out that I'm not a machine but I never do. I support my 93 yr old mother who is in an assisted care home. She is very frail so I have to be on hand for shopping, laundry, cleaning and emotional support. DH has a lot of health issues and our elder DD needs help with her two boys as she is a single mum. This does not stop me jumping in the car and driving for hours to provide emergency help for our other children and grandchildren. Why do we put ourselves through it? I have a friend who is much tougher than I and told her sons quite firmly, 'You had kids......you bring them up!' I couldn't bear to be like that but she's the one with time for her friends, regular holidays etc. I don't think I would change a thing though and I suspect other GNetters feel the same.

gracesmum, you're the last person who should feel guilty! After all you've been through, your resistance (in more ways than one) will likely be low.
It's like the old song ''I'm just a girl who can't say 'no" ! And don't they all know it! Sometimes I spread myself so thin that I'm 'ringing' with tiredness (like today)! If I only did what my family expected me to do, , then I probably wouldn't feel so tired, but I do try to fit in all my stuff too.....and the result is weariness!

Perhaps a list; on one side putting what you do for other people, another one saying what they do for you and then, perhaps a third one [including your art history class;I'd love to go to one of those, too] of things that you don't do that you want to because you haven't got the time due to doing so much for other people. I think there wil be a slight imbalance! I love lists, me !

gracesmum certainly not selfish at all,just a wee bit tired and maybe a thank you would do some good sometime,I must agree with glass I do enjoy a good strop it clears the air I think,at the moment mine are OK and only really have to keep eye on DD as she is on her own with children,the boys and their partners seem to have no problems at present (don't speak to soon glamma)they usually start off if I treat one of them to something and the other finds out then I have problems.

I'd like to remind you gracesmum that you recently completed a heroic marathon of going back and fore to visit your DH in hospital in London. Quite a traipse from where you live. I remember doing this a few times when my DDIL was in Northwick Park - stopping train to Harrow and then a bus...

Not at all selfish *gracesmum". I used to describe that feeling of being stretched more and more thinly as being like strudel pastry. When it got to the point where you could see through me (i.e. my weight fell below 6 stone), something had to give. Don't let it get that far with you – give yourself a break now.

Ouch whenim - I can think of a few GNners who will find that a very powerful metaphor.

Selfish? No, that's the last thing I'd call you, gracesmum. Selfless, more likely. You are having the energy sucked out of you and it's about time someone showed appreciation for you and all you do for them. Do you have any close women friends (apart from us of course) whom you can get together with and just let it all hang out?

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My other mantra for when I'm feeling put on and stressed is 'let go of your end of the elastic before it snaps in your face.'

jess I think I am going to adopt the mantra thank you

"I need to recharge my batteries" is a good phrase perhaps.
I think every woman's mantra should be: You can't take care of the ones you love, unless you take care of yourself.

Saying a very firm but pleasant NO is quite hard to get the hang of, but once you've said it a couple of times it gets easier. It is also very liberating!
I think they respect you for it too.

No, certainly not selfish, grace - just exhausted. Get some rest if you can.

glass agree with the bit about having a strop....supportive I was...doormat I was not and when they all used to try and get a piece of me and it all got too much,I would jump up and down so they got the message to back off for a bit,but it did take practice to say under my terms I was fighting for survival...my own,and I didn't have a magic wand to solve all the problems. A good strop is very therapeutic,if I hadn't been hopping up and down with anger I could have laughed at the look on the faces when I said No [ grin]

grace I get the same no your not being selfish!!!

I think we are our own worse enemies, we put ourselves into these situations because I suppose we are Mothers first and foremost. Then it builds up and we feel tired and put upon and if your anything like me I let it build and then have a grumble and I dont know if it gets better or I feel better because I have let my feeling out and then it gradually seems to slide back to the same old.

In the past I used to wonder if it was connected to my PMT when I felt enough was enough and had a bit of a strop.

Sending you a big {{{hug}}} try to have some you time today

You most certainly are nelliedeane! In fact, reading the stories here and on the other thread has made me feel very humble. You are amazing, strong women.

No gracesmumI don't think you are being selfish,if you become I'll,who would be able to look after you.
Many times during my marriage,Dad died after my first daughter died,,and we had only been married a year,MIL was widowed and needy,Mum was very needy and difficult,and my 21year old brother was a royal PIA and no help at all...I was 26 and had to support,help,look after,the two mums...and have my brother to live with us as mum couldn't cope and they didn't get on by this time I had a 2year old and a new baby to contend with,DH worked all hours,and so on it went on all through my marriage,DGD was born working full time and supporting an 18 year young mum we shared child care,and she worked 12 hour shifts weekends and would need taking and collecting.....marriage broke down DGD came to live mum became infirm.3court cases running,multi agency meetings.....and so on it went....I had two breakdowns .
So in answer to your question the answer is no,put your foot down when possible,and recharge your batteries when you have too there is only so much you can do before you start to feel trapped and resentful as much as you love your family ME time is your right,it oils the wheels keeps everyone happy because you are happy.....so sit down put you feet up and have a cuppa you deserve it us women are b****y marvels.

gracesmum, you are not being selfish. Sometimes I think other people might need a little reminder that they might be just a little bit selfish though.