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Does sexual fidelity matter?

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absent Wed 03-Apr-13 18:30:26

It's never seemed particularly important to me. I was/am sexually faithful to my previous husband, my long-term partner and now my present husband – but only because that was what I chose to do not because I thought it mattered.

Bags Thu 04-Apr-13 17:01:40

Crossed posts, absent. In answer to your question: yes, I think there are.

Bags Thu 04-Apr-13 17:00:36

Is simply being attracted to someone else sexual infidelity? After all, you don't have to do anything about the attraction. You don't even have to acknowledge it consciously.

absent Thu 04-Apr-13 16:59:42

Are there not more important aspects to a marriage/lifetime partnership than copulation?

sunseeker Thu 04-Apr-13 16:53:06

Before we married my DH and I agreed there would be no second chances, if one or the other strayed that would be the end of the marriage. As a result we had complete trust in each other - I never met anyone who was more attractive to me than my DH and I know he was faithful to me because he said if ever he met anyone he was more attracted to he would tell me before he told her!

Grannylin Thu 04-Apr-13 10:49:35

On the other hand, sexual fidelity does not necessarily indicate a loving relationship confused

Movedalot Thu 04-Apr-13 10:47:33

I totally agree with Ganjura on this: "Absolutely, I think those who say it does not are either very naive, or very selfish/insensitive."

If you have a good marriage/relationship you would never cheat on your partner and, yes, I do believe it is cheating. I can't even keep a secret from DH, I am finding it terribly hard to keep one at the moment which is simply a lovely surprise for him.

Nonu Thu 04-Apr-13 10:42:58

Think it essential to a loving relationship to adhere to fidelity .

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Mishap Thu 04-Apr-13 10:41:16

Honesty is the key - if you have made a promise to be faithful to one person then you should stick to that. If you decide to break the promise, you should tell your partner.

Greatnan Thu 04-Apr-13 10:28:14

I had a long discussion with my daughter and her husband about this and they both said that it was quite natural to be attracted to sombody else, but if you loved your partner you would not act upon it. The bible takes a different view 'If a man looks after a woman so as to lust after her in his heart, he has already committed adultery'. Matthew 5.28.

For myself, I would never have stayed with a man who was unfaithful, because I would think he was stupid to choose to be with somebody else when he could be with me! grin

Bags Thu 04-Apr-13 10:03:20

I think sexual fidelity is an indication of the strength of the bond between two people. If the bond is weak, one or both may start to look around. And once 'looking around' starts, the signal of availablility (or "maybe availability") is picked up by others who are looking around.

So I think sexual fidelity is great where it exists, but not 'wrong' where it doesn't. We're only human. We're only animals. In a way, I find it surprising that so many people have such a strong bond with their partner to the sexual exclusion of everyone else. Surprising and wonderful.

Greatnan Thu 04-Apr-13 09:52:11

I think there is a lot of 'well, my partner will never know' thinking involved, but in fact the truth often outs. One man I knew who had a series of affairs was involved in a car crash when driving one of his lovers. His wife was called to the hospital and was told that there was another person in the car. She soon worked out the truth - there was no reason for him to be where he was, or to have the other woman with him.
Another danger is that the lover might get jealous/vindictive and inform the other partner. I think this is why some people prefer to take married lovers - on the basis that they will have an equal amount to lose.

petallus Thu 04-Apr-13 09:19:39

I'm sure I remember reading an article a couple of years ago (I think by Katherine Whitehorn) which suggested that it was a trend for middle aged/elderly women to find lovers because they were fed up with routine or non-existent sex with their husbands.

sunflowersuffolk Thu 04-Apr-13 08:41:16

If you DON'T know it can't hurt you - except your relationship is a lie, even if you aren't aware of that at the moment.

How can you have a true loving relationship if one of you is hiding the fact that he/she is also "in a relationship" with someone else. You are not then being honest with the person you say you love.

Eventually the truth is likely to come out, which would undoubtedly hurt your partner very much.

absent Thu 04-Apr-13 07:31:55

Everyone posting seems to assume that I was talking about an "open" marriage/partnership. One person in a partnership can be sexually unfaithful without telling the other. So is it true that what you don't know, can't hurt you? Of course, not all infidelity is mainly sexual. I know of a woman who discovered that her husband was being unfaithful because she realised that someone was darning his socks. How romantic is that?

Eloethan Thu 04-Apr-13 00:04:36

I think probably we are brought up to think that sexual relationships should be exclusive and the concept of fidelity is very much culturally determined.

Having said that, personally I would feel very insecure in an "open" relationship.

ps Wed 03-Apr-13 22:20:29

In answer to the question, an emphatic Yes. Of course it matters, assuming there is love, respect, morals, ethics and loyalty between the two people concerned.
I think HildaW has the right idea and the litmus test she highlights is a good guideline. I guess if we do not believe that sexual fidelity is important then perhaps we should not marry or co-habit with anyone who does as that is just cruel and hurtful should the opportunity and decision ever be taken to have a 'fling'.
For my part I find the idea abhorrent and beneath contempt but each to their own. I do not expect everyone to have similar values to me but I would expect honesty. As a victim of infidelity I would not encourage the act.

vegasmags Wed 03-Apr-13 21:39:12

Yes, it does matter, otherwise what is there to distinguish a sexual relationship from a mere friendship or acquaintanceship?

granjura Wed 03-Apr-13 21:23:52

I've only known one couple where the 'open relationship' was a concept both wanted, and not just one 'enforcing' it on the other.

RobertJunior Wed 03-Apr-13 21:20:55

YES

BAnanas Wed 03-Apr-13 21:16:39

I believe Jerry Hall said about husband Mick's many indiscretions "it just causes chaos" I think that comment is very apt. I don't know what people mean by "open relationship" why be in a relationship at all if you can't commit. I think fidelity is very important.

Ana Wed 03-Apr-13 20:59:47

It matters to me. It didn't seem to matter to my ex.
I know it matters to the present Mr A.

LullyDully Wed 03-Apr-13 20:36:54

To me it is very important. I believe in trust and love.Anything else would not suit me.

Mishap Wed 03-Apr-13 19:21:24

Fidelity is the cornerstone of society's stability; so yes, it matters a great deal.

As a SW I saw the misery that indfidelity causes for partners and children.

The only situation where it is acceptable is when the partners have agreed to an open marriage/partnership.

Grannyknot Wed 03-Apr-13 19:20:36

It is to me.

granjura Wed 03-Apr-13 19:12:51

Absolutely, I think those who say it does not are either very naive, or very selfish/insensitive.