Now, it's the Idiots mother!! No need to read or reply!!

Lies and deceit obviously run in the family kitty I feel your

I met a good friend of mine that I don't see often for coffee this morning. We spent 2hrs slagging of DD ex. Very cathartic!

It's good to have someone who understands, isn't it nina

It certainly is

Does your MiL and son really think that Bertie won't let the cat out of the bag at some point?! I hope that they haven't told him that the 'visitor' is their 'secret'. How sad for you all that it's come to this.

for you and DD, Kitty....... sounds as if the Idiot and his Ma had an 'arrangement'.... pardon me if I am being too cynical!
I have a friend whose ex has jumped thro' fiery hoops to prevent her getting any of 'his' money. He always controlled bank accounts even 'taking charge' of money left to her by her family, using her earnings to pay for the childrens' education so that she now has little pension (she made no contributions on his 'advice'!) I could go on......
Much sympathy Kitty

So very sad when adults allow their anger and pain to put children in difficult situations. So unfair to model telling lies to Bertie and making him a pawn in their game. He will see it for himself as he gets older.
I can understand your anger and frustration.

kitty and hug.

and a growl!!

Kitty for you so so unfair to little one to be put in this situation and so childish of MIL to think for one minute she can hide things from you.