Can't know the truth - feeling gobsmacked

"Someone else must have put them on" is what they all say that about the illegal images on their computers.

Operation "ore" several years ago caught all sort and status of people who had downloaded illegal images and were caught out by their credit card details on sites where they paid to view this stuff.

It's not want you want your childrens partners to do. I hope she stays away from him. A lucky escape I think Nitwitt

Thank goodness your DD didn't stay with him.

You must be highly relieved it's all over NittWitt, hideous situation for you both, and his poor victim.

Clearly there was much more going on than that which you were aware of.

Best wishes to you and your DD, x

I thought I'd give you an update.
The court case has happened, the guy was found not guilty of possessing the pictures as the jury accepted his defence that other people used the computer.
It was only a brief report in the paper so of course I don't know what evidence there was on each side.

But he was found guilty of harrassing a woman by setting up a facebook page in a false name and sending her distressing, sexually explicit messages.
(something DD and I had heard nothing about before this.)
He'll be sentenced after background reports.

I'm so glad that DD dumped him when she did and wasn't still being loyal to him when that information came out.

Yes, it was revolting. It does worry me when their photos are put on FB etc.
This, however, was in an email attachment - and we had Norton or something similar installed.
We have upped the security since.

That's just so sick
Does make you wonder about protecting your own photos of children, grandchildren etc....

I remember when DD's friend emailed pictures of her newborn baby which she had had made into a slideshow using some firm or other. When I opened the link I got a porn video instead! her MIL got the same, so someone had hijacked it.
We alerted her and she dealt with it immediately.
It was not child porn thank goodness, more 'obese' porn but a shock!

LOL Mishap, hopefully, he won't use that phrase on its own again. I had a similar experience when I googled for information about having hens/chickens free ranging in my garden. Needless to say, I quickly became more savvy about which phrases were safe to use.

It does seem odd.

Mind you my OH needed a new vice for his tool bench and typed in "vice" on his computer. Hmmm.

I agree Iam64, I can't imagine any way he could have 'accidentally' downloaded pictures of child abuse.
There always seem to be implausible excuses from these sickening individuals.

I may be a cynic here, but I suspect Wifi bandits are the least of this young man's problems. I don't know anyone who had imagines of child abuse pop onto the computer out of no where - does anyone else? I remember Pete Townsend claiming he was only looking at it as "research". Gary Glitter/Paul Gadd is in court at the moment, denying various allegations of sexual abuse of girls. He has to admit to previously having images of child sexual abuse on his computer in the past, because he is already convicted of that. He's now saying he only looked at because he was "in a dark place" - that's ok then

That's a horrendous thought, alex. Especially with all the free wi-fi access available all over the place. Who knows if the network is secured when you stay in a B&B, for example.

Here's another possibilty. Wifi bandits. If an ususpecting victim' s internet is unsecured, a criminal can steal access, download and move on. The police in a documentary recently admitted that there was a problem were peodophiles trawl the streets in vehicles scanning for unsecured net access. They also used a group of young professionals in London's cafe culture to demonsrtate how hackers can take over their laptops/tablets remotely to their unscrupulous advantage. There was lots more in this documentary on computer crime, but thats all I recall.

"He claims that an image was uploaded, which triggered some sort of official alert. (I don't know if that is how things work.)"

That doesn't sound right to me, the police have no connection to any ones home computer.

A warrant would have to be granted to even search premises and a good reason would need to be presented to the court to get the warrant.

My son quite often does remote work on my computer if something goes wrong, but I have to open an application allowing him to do this, he can't just get into my computer.

Something is not right.

I guess many of us have DDs and can imagine how we'd feel, certainly set alarm bells ringing for me.
Wishing you both all the best x

No, DD is quite decisive about these things. I'm sure he'll stay dumped!

Thanks again for all the kind thoughts. I genuinely didn't expect any answers so it was lovely to find that I had a bunch of friends backing me up when I had been feeling completely at a loss.
to all

Thank goodness, and hope she doesn't wobble!

Phew indeed!

Phew! Can't help being relieved for you and DD. Best wishes to you x

I do hope your daughter isn't persuaded back into this relationship Nittwitt. The "I didn't know it was on my computer" defence isn't reassuring is it. Sending best wishes to you and your daughter

What a relief for you. ME is an awful thing to have and your daughter has enough problems without having someone like that in her life.

Wow - all of a sudden it's all over!

DD came home at the weekend, fully intending to go back to the BF's place in a couple of days but today there has been a lot of to & fro with text, facebook & phoning and the end result is that she has dumped him.

I think she still believes his version about the computer images but had other differences with him that I don't fully know about.

Anyway, I am heartily relieved and thank you all for your support when I was really worried.

Vampirequeen said My heart says don't trust him an inch. My mind says innocent until proven guilty. and that's how I felt. The court case is due in April and I'll be looking out for a report of it in the local papers.

My heart says don't trust him an inch. My mind says innocent until proven guilty. When is the court case?

Either way your DD will have to decide for herself whether or not she's going to stay with him. No matter how you feel about him you must accept that but make it clear that she is always welcome even if he isn't and that if she ever changes her mind she has a home with you.

Something similar happened in my family. The man put in your own word was sent to prison but my cousin wouldn't accept he was guilty and stood by him. We were all horrified and couldn't understand her. He was released after six years and shortly after he came out he re-offended, was again found guilty and sent back to prison. This time she saw him for what he is and left him. Because she knew it was safe to do so she turned to the family for support and of course received it.

Clothed models -even unclothed models would not constitute unsuitable images. As I understand it, pornography, unless involving children or animals is not illegal. Something is not right here , you may wish to know the truth or you may not. Either way I would be wary. Perhaps I am a prude but I would not even be happy about a DD's BF having pornography on his computer.
At best he has been foolish, but as we say in Scotland, "ah hae mah doots!"

What a dreadful dilemma for you. You can only speculate really - and in the middle of this all you want is for your DD to be happy. Itou have all my sympathy. must be so hard for you. You have all my sympathy.