Oh! Didn't notice this was a thread with OP from August. More
than ever now.
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DD has now moved in with her lovely new partner. He is absolutely fantastic with the children and they adore him.
The Idiot is running out of ways of controlling DD but, obviously, there are still the children. It is now 9 weeks since he saw them. He asked to have them a couple of weeks ago (when it was DH's birthday party). Because the children were looking forward to seeing us, their aunts, uncles and cousins, DD had to warn them that they were going to see Daddy instead and, naturally, they were really excited. DD then asked the Idiot if his girlfriend was going to be there whereupon he told her to f-off and said he wouldn't have them.
Today, he said that he is off work next week and would like to have the children. DD said that in view of the long period since he last saw them it might be good to have them during the day at the start of the week and then have them to stay overnight a little later in the week. Again he told her to f-off! Luckily, she hasn't mentioned it to the children this time.
The Idiot still pays the child support (not through the CMS) regularly.
Is there any where she can go for advice on the best way forward? I think she is doing all the right things but she feels she would like more than the support of her Mum and Dad behind her.
She would like the children to see him and his parents, who have not seen them for (we think) 3 months. She will not take them to see his parents as her FiL put his hands round her throat and threatened to hit her last time she went there.
Or, does anyone know any hit men? 
Oh! Didn't notice this was a thread with OP from August. More
than ever now.
I don't understand why your DD was willing to deprive the children of being at their grandad's family birthday party with cousins et al, just to appease her ex.
But I haven't been following this, so perhaps there is more to it.
Gj
That was really beyond the pale!
STOP SNIPING at established posters!
Why do some people find it so hard to apologise? I will probably be in trouble for asking that, now!
I'm going to stick my head up GJ, but I think you do owe Alea an apology. It was confusing , she only asked the same question as others and you didn't respond to them in the same way.
I'm sure you were very worried about your friend and because you knew more details you didn't recognise any confusion. And I'm sure that made you more impatient than you might normally be. I can only imagine how worried you are.
Forgive me for sticking my nose in but it seems a shame for you both to be upset.
Proof read kitty!!
Thank you Elegant. I was only being flippant really as dd and the DGC are in a much better place generally and he is a minor irritation most if the time. I didn't mean to cause an incident! But, I'll remember your good advice! 
kitty Now that the air is clear of that personal vendetta, once again let me say that I am sorry to hear that he is being a pain in the derriere. I really did think that he had finally seen the light and given up clowning dangerously about, but the leopard doen't change his spots. Sounds like that gun would be useful, but be sure you take him on a cruise first, and when you are in the middle of the Atlantic,have him stand against the rail and tie something heavy to him before you pull the trigger (and get a silencer on it). We will all swear blind that you were with us at the time.
Just before I go, granjura you will be aware (as I said) that
is not an " unpleasant face" but a recognised GN emoticon for CONFUSED. I assume you have realised this and imagine that you are similarly aware if
(*Ana*) and
(*ninathenana*) and
( jalima )
How simple would it have been to just ask- instead of mentioning gaps, dates, and unpleasant faces. So simple.
Signing out as this is not about me, nor any of you.
But kitty having a horrible time of it on several fronts
which is just so hard for her.
What a pity too that alea has decided to leave GN. She is not generally a shrinking violet, so she must have felt very hurt by that unexpected attack.
True, there was no need for any recriminations at all on this thread, which is all about kittys idiot SiL, and we all sympathis with kitty and her family.
A couple of us didn't realise that he had kicked off again and were surprised to see your post today, GJ What a pity indeed that such a stushy was made of that!
Thank you for your total absence of an apology for your unfounded accusations,*granjura*. Another scalp to your belt?
I am so sorry kitty, that it's all kicked off again. What with your mum and all, it must be so hard to keep it all together (((( hugs )))))
And so sorry for any unplesantness here on this thread- as if I would have even dreamt of posting out of the blue, for no reason, on an old thread. As long as YOU know this, the rest does not matter. There was really no need for this, sadly.
Because he's flipping thick Elegant!! 
granjura I said much the same as alea when I saw a sudden post on this thread after six months. Would you like to start on me next?
I hadn't seen kitty's post on another thread, so I was confused - well, it was confusing, wasn't it?
kitty sorry to hear that he is acting true to form again. He doesn't learn, does he?
I don't know what you meant by it kitty but it is a great word and worth remembering to use again. It conveys how you feel exactly. He does create a lot of caknush.
stands for "confused" and I am totally 
I do not have the faintest idea what GJ is talking about, why I have been taken to task, or (apologies kittylester!in what way I might not be seen to be respecting your feelings.
However, bottom line is that you Granjura never seem to miss an opportunity to have a go at me and accuse me of whatever you feel like.
"Why did I join Gransnet?" Well not to be somebody's kicking boy, and not put up with such random rudeness and vitriol. I don't encounter it in RL, so why on earth should I here.
really Alea I know you can't stand me but try to be civil somehow
What occasioned this gem is completely beyond me , but am I going to hang around for more?
Find someone else to have a go at in future.
(Am I "flouncing"? Too damn right)
Did I mention I'm a marksman with a pistol , smg and rifle * Kittylester* ?
Oh wait...that might be seen as advertising 
I wonder what I meant by caknush! I really must learn to proof read! 
X post Alea (I am very slow)
I'm OK gj but things gave been caknush with the bloody Idiot until today! He is just a complete and utter A*****le! Send bad vibes please grans. Actually, don't because if he is suffering it's DD and the DGC who have to cope - if she would only let me get my hands on him and his Flipping parents!! 
Well, I did see the other post and responded on there, so yes, granjura posted too on the other thread and so did I, which some people may not have seen.
So, bearing in mind not many people may have seen it, I didn't think Alea's post sounded out of order. I think she was perfectly reasonable to say she was
or have I missed something?
Anyway kitty I can understand how you feel and I'm sure you will pick up this thread if you need support.
Granjura
Exactly which part of
I'm
is this still the original thread from August, or have there been further developments
is in your opinion lacking in civility???
Now I really am
it seems I cannot post anything without accusations being thrown around. Now IMHO that does suggest a lack of civility.
I so wish I could edit and cancel my comments- but I can't. How sad- this is not about you, not about me, but about kitty having a hard time. Please, respect that, thanks. So sorry kitty, I truly meant this to be in support.
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