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Grannyonasuperbike Fri 17-Nov-17 17:57:20

My son has become a father for the first time, he is 27 years old, a serving soldier and is away from home quite a lot. His daughter is the apple of his eye. She is now 7 months old.

My son is a natural redhead, I was born a redhead, we both have blue eyes. His girlfriend is a natural redhead with brown eyes.

The baby has dark brown hair and brown eyes.

I'm just so worried that the baby is not his as a few years ago a previous girlfriend fell pregnant, the baby was born and the midwife had suspicions that it couldn't be his, due to its colouring. I paid for a DNA test and he was 100% not the father.

We now all have a lovely relationship, but my son was so distraught last time I thought he would harm himself.

I was convinced that the new baby would be a redhad as I thought two natural redheads would have a red haired baby....

Should I just forget about the past and enjoy what we have? The hurt from before is gnawing away at me.

humptydumpty Sun 19-Nov-17 12:22:15

Grannyonasuperbike, please, leave this alone! have you watched the storyline with Mary in Corrie recently...

M0nica Sun 19-Nov-17 11:24:29

Looking at my family, there are several of these anomalies. Both my DGP had hair so dark it was nearly black and dead straight, as did all their siblings and parents. Three of their 11 children, scattered down the range had tightly curled fair hair. Infidelity was highly improbable. They were constantly on the move as DGF was in the army and DGM had their growing family to care for.

My father was one of the fair frizzy ones. My mother also had tightly curly hair and came from an equally dark haired family. My hair is dead straight. At 2 my hair was egg yoke yellow and my DGM thought I was going to be ginger haired. I am not, I am golden brown with strong red lights. There is nobody else in the family on either side with even a hint of red hair, not even my siblings, DC or DGC

Genetics are funny things and throw up all kinds of surprises

Bluegal Sat 18-Nov-17 17:29:21

We were taught in biology that no two blue eyed parents could produce a brown eyed child as brown was the dominant gene.

I have a cousin who disproves this totally. BOTH parents have blue eyes and my cousin has dark brown eyes! OK cynics would be asking for DNA ....EXCEPT she is the spitting image of her father's sister who has brown eyes.... so obviously never cut and dried even with genetics.

Forget it and just enjoy your GC.

DanniRae Sat 18-Nov-17 09:20:53

My husband and I both have brown eyes.
My mum and dad both had brown eyes.
My husband's mum had brown eyes but his dad had blue
eyes.
However my first daughter has blue eyes and my second
daughter has grey/blue eyes! Only my third child - our son -
has brown eyes!!!

Bellasnana Sat 18-Nov-17 07:25:22

I believe both parents have to carry the gene for red hair for it to be passed on to their offspring.

paddyann Sat 18-Nov-17 01:36:28

I have grey eyes my husband has brown we have one brown eyed and one blue eyed child ,grandchildren have one brown one blue one grey one green ,although only one of the four parents have brown eyes and the rest are blue ....its a lucky dip !I would keep my suspicions to myself.Look for other aspects that are familiar in your GD,my son has all his GF's mannerisms and my GD,my sons child, should have been my daughters she's so like her ,in looks and personality and mannerisms ..in fact we found my D's report card from primary school today and my GD's could have been written about the same child

grannyticktock Fri 17-Nov-17 22:54:05

Brown eyes are dominant, so that's easily explained. Red hair is usually recessive but I don't think that's so clear cut, as the hair colour can change with age, and in any case a brown-eyed redhead may not be a "true" redhead from an inheritance point of view, the hair may be "hybrid".

If you son has already confronted this issue in a previous relationship, it must have crossed his mind this time. If he's decided to accept the baby, it's not up to you to say anything, just follow his lead and enjoy your granddaughter.

SueDonim Fri 17-Nov-17 22:44:57

I have red hair, my mother and MIL both had red hair and I have three out of four red-headed children. Not one of my four grandchildren has red hair, not even the children whose mother also has red hair in her family.

I'd put aside your worries and just enjoy the baby as your son is doing.

Newquay Fri 17-Nov-17 22:42:04

We have one red haired DGS his sister are all white blonde. There is red hair on DH's side-as OP said it does pop up from time to time.
I know a young woman black hair, Hispanic roots. Her DH mid brown hair, fair skin. They have one black haired, olive skinned son and one fair with blonde hair.
You never can tell from looks alone!

ElaineI Fri 17-Nov-17 22:33:08

People with red hair can have children with any colour of hair/eyes. To do with genetics but too late for my brain to specify. Been a few twins born white and black too. I would not worry - and do not voice your doubts. Enjoy and love being a granny and don't interfere as it may go against you x

maryeliza54 Fri 17-Nov-17 22:32:56

Good job there’s nothing remotely identifying in this thread posted on a totally public site isn’t it? OP you might want to ask to have it deleted before it ends up who knows where?

Marydoll Fri 17-Nov-17 22:23:34

I have three children, two with jet black hair and hazel eyes and one with red hair and piercing blue eyes. When they were young, I was sitting in the doctor's and could hear two old biddies discussing my children. "Do you think they have the same father?" said one of them. I soon put them right on that one. The red haired gene is a recessive gene. My mother and father were dark haired, but I'm a redhead. Just love and enjoy your new grandchild and stop speculating.

Luckygirl Fri 17-Nov-17 22:16:23

Indeed - genetic throwbacks can produce some little surprises!

OP - you have a happy family; whyever would you want to rock the boat in such a destructive way?

mcem Fri 17-Nov-17 21:50:08

Several years at a local young mum gave birth to twins. One was a blue-eyed blond and the other was clearly black.
DNA test proved that they were the husband's fraternal twin boys.
Way back on mum 's side there had been a Jamaican g'dad.
The genes seemed to have been 'diluted' over about 4/5 generations but were there in the DNA.
There ain't no telling!!

lemongrove Fri 17-Nov-17 21:19:07

That’s good! Stay on GN too?

Grannyonasuperbike Fri 17-Nov-17 21:17:13

Thanks everyone, I appreciate each and every comment. I count myself very lucky and I will concentrate on the future and the lovely young family my son has.

lemongrove Fri 17-Nov-17 21:09:53

I understand your worry grannyonasuperbike I would be wondering too, in your place, given what has happened previously.You don’t want your son to be hurt that way again.
However, it seems he has accepted the baby as his own and loves her.If he is ok with this or hasn’t mentioned any doubts, then try and forget about it.The chances are that they will be a happy young family, I hope so.

Baggs Fri 17-Nov-17 21:05:27

Why is it the midwife's business who the father of a baby is? Thst whole story sounds weird to me.

Morgana Fri 17-Nov-17 21:02:26

You have all bonded with that lovely little baby. Just enjoy the love and forget those superstitions.

BlueBelle Fri 17-Nov-17 20:26:34

Too much involvement Grannyonasuperbike that’s not for you to wonder or have anything to do with unless your son invites you to question it
What a terrible midwife to say that, all sorts of colourings can come out in babies when they are first born none of her business either.... breaking the law ?? Really
Enjoy the baby and enjoy a good relationship with the babies mother and put all the rest out of your mind

Grannyonasuperbike Fri 17-Nov-17 19:23:33

Apparently the midwife explained to the previous girlfriend that she would be breaking the law (as they were due to register the babies birth that same day), the previous girlfriend then admitted her guilt to my son who had been asked to leave the room. He then phoned me.

Baggs Fri 17-Nov-17 19:19:43

So, basically, you don't trust your son's partner. That's your problem. Don't make it his.

Baggs Fri 17-Nov-17 19:18:12

Good point, eazybee.

Grannyonasuperbike Fri 17-Nov-17 19:17:33

I know it's a terrible accusation to make on my part, but I have always tried really hard with both my sons girlfriends. The babies mother did admit to my son that while he was away she had invited a previous boyfriend around to stay as he had nowhere to go, but nothing had happened. What can I say? I am trying really hard and we all get on well. I would not try and come between them.

I ought to concentrate on what I have.

eazybee Fri 17-Nov-17 19:13:14

Leave it alone.
How very unprofessional of the midwife to even discuss it with you.