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Jaxie Sat 03-Nov-18 07:48:15

Last week I was invited to an informal celebration by a friend. There were three couples and myself. The conversation turned to tv. I said I could recommend a tv station that showed old, usually b&w films, and that I'd recently watched a favourite: The Winslow Boy. A man piped up and said that there was a newer version of this film. " Yes," I said, " but it's not as good; it's got that actor in Basil Rathbone's part, can't remember his name, he's rather ugly." This man said, "What do you mean? Ugly like you?" No-one said anything and later my hostess denied that she'd heard him, but we were crammed around a small table, and one participant tried to comfort me when he saw how upset I was as we walked home. The man who insulted me is an ex- policeman with a bullying manner ( here I'll say a close friend is an ex- policeman, to preempt comments from those who think I'm stereotyping). I am terribly upset. How do I deal with this man when I see him again? I live in a very small town and I dread how I shall feel to encounter him.

mabon1 Sun 04-Nov-18 15:48:21

Below contempt, but don't let it get you, avoid his company in future.

FlorenceFlower Sun 04-Nov-18 15:48:14

What a deeply unpleasant man, so sorry you had to meet him.

It may be he was trying to be humorous, but he certainly didn’t succeed. Just make sure you don’t see him again. And if you have to, quite a few people here have made very good suggestions.

Above all, put it and him out of your mind, although that’s easier said than done - I’ve certainly remembered some unpleasant people for a long time.

Have lovely weekend and forget all about him ?

MaggieMay69 Sun 04-Nov-18 15:16:08

I do know how this can hurt, but do try and remember the man is just an idiot!.
There are some people, not just men, who think that everything they say is just downright hilarious, put-downs especially. I'll bet he was showing off trying to be funny. The last time a friend of mine called me ugly I said to her 'Well look who's talking! I heard when you were born the Doctor turned round and slapped your mother!'
Sadly, she didn't understand it, but everyone else did, and she's a lot quieter these days! lol.

Ugly is as Ugly does my mother always said, hold your head high, if you see him, smile, and feel sorry for what a mserable git he must be trying to get laughs from being unkind to others at his age!

Coconut Sun 04-Nov-18 15:11:01

Unbelievably rude ..... if you meet him again, you could blank him, or just say “ do you need to insult others to make you feel more of a man ?” Or “ oh hello you’re the ugly one from the dinner party, can’t remember your name” .... he is clearly ugly inside .

Happilyretired123 Sun 04-Nov-18 15:03:33

Jaxie. His rude and boorish response to you says more about him than you. Bullies think they are being funny/clever and put others down to make themselves feel good so how sad he feels the need to do this. At least you aren’t married to him! Just blank him next time you see him,and if the situation requires then just the minimum civilities. He has the problem not you ?

GabriellaG Sun 04-Nov-18 14:58:25

I see. It's ok for you to describe someone as being ugly but not acceptable for anyone to ask if that person matches your looks.

MissAdventure Sun 04-Nov-18 14:55:20

Are we allowed to say one person is more attractive than another?
Its getting difficult to know what we may post that doesn't offend someone.
By the way, I'm certainly no oil painting myself!

librarylady Sun 04-Nov-18 14:49:44

Basil Radford has indeed been dead for many many years. Colin Stinton, however, is still alive and still working - but is Canadian so possibly unlikely to be related to this man.

However, a comparison of the pictures of the two men may show how subjective attractiveness is, since I would certainly say Radford is nowhere near as physically attractive as Stinton and (although this is a little OT) I find it hard to understand why the OP made the comparison she did in the first place?

MissAdventure Sun 04-Nov-18 14:45:40

I won't care who says what about me when I'm dead.

HurdyGurdy Sun 04-Nov-18 14:44:18

Craicon - stop making excuses for this pathetic bully

Where have I made excuses for him? I think he was equally unjustified in using the word ugly. It's a spiteful word to use against anyone, imho

MissAdventure Sun 04-Nov-18 14:33:02

Yes, I would call him a horrible thing to his face.
It wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

sarahellenwhitney Sun 04-Nov-18 14:31:07

The guy has issues maybe related to his own looks or any thing else personal and at that moment your comment touched a raw note. Not easy to forget but do try and if you happen to meet in the street a big smile and a hello as the last thing you want is to let him see how his cruel remark affected you.

Buffybee Sun 04-Nov-18 14:30:23

Posted too soon!!!

You certainly don't mince your words.
Hopefully this ignorant bully will pick on someone like you sometime and get a good comeback!

Nanny41 Sun 04-Nov-18 14:29:24

Waht a horrible rude man, and quite ugly on the inside. Ignore his rudeness!

Buffybee Sun 04-Nov-18 14:28:21

Your posts made me laugh Craicon!
You c

Craicon Sun 04-Nov-18 14:25:27

HurdyGurdy stop making excuses for this pathetic bully. You’re minimising of his unacceptable comment is just as frustrating as his behaviour.
Cyber bullying? Oh do grow up!

harrysgran Sun 04-Nov-18 14:23:14

Some men try to come across as funny and witty but as they get older this often makes them appear rude and embarrassing I would put it to the back of your mind but be ready with a comeback should you ever find yourself in his company again however do you think this might make you think twice about how you describe others in the future if so take it on the chin and learn from it

Theoddbird Sun 04-Nov-18 14:20:56

Bullies are not worth a reaction. Just ignore him totally if you encounter him again

Craicon Sun 04-Nov-18 14:20:30

Who does he think he is that he is entitled to be aggressively rude to the OP at someone else’s party?
If anyone had said that to me or to anyone in my earshot, I’d have simply told him to ODFO. Bugger politeness.
I’m raging that no-one had the gumption to say anything to him!
They sound like a pathetic bunch of so-called friends and I’d drop them all like a stone and find some new friends. It really isn’t that difficult if you make a bit of effort.
I used to put up with crap in my twenties but I won’t waste time on pathetic wankers like that anymore.

sodapop Sun 04-Nov-18 14:15:50

Well said HurdyGurdy

HurdyGurdy Sun 04-Nov-18 14:11:04

So far, on this thread, this man has been called

“nasty” in the thread title
“An ex policeman bully”
“horrible man”
“ugly on the inside”
“a horrible and very rude man”
“a horrible thing! (thing!!!!)
“Horrible, nasty 'man'.”
“boorish, male chauvinist pig”
“a horror”
“a nasty piece of work who deliberately targets those more vulnerable than himself”
“a despicable person”
“drunk or immature and full of his own importance”
“ill-mannered pig”
“unpleasant individual” and “excrement under your feet”
“that ghastly man”
“a bully”
“rude man”
“an objectionable man”
“an ugly little man”

I’m assuming none of US know him, or have ever met him, yet it is felt acceptable to collectively denounce him, based on one comment he made to someone who had herself called someone else ugly.

Yes, I am oversensitive to hearing people being called ugly, as I accepted many years ago that I could never be described as even pretty. But I’ve had the bullying in the past where collectively I was called ugly, whether that was to my face, or within earshot, or written, or told to me as hearsay. I used to – and still do – get so upset that THAT was what I was being judged on, and not my personality or behaviour. So I get VERY upset when the word is used against anyone (including the OP). The OP didn’t say “I find him to be ugly” but, according to the first post in the thread, stated as fact that “he’s rather ugly”.

The words and phrases used above to describe a total stranger, are, in my view, nothing less than cyber-bullying and very unworthy of a group of mature adults. We don’t know – he may even be on this site, and reading this thread. Would those of you who wrote the words against him be prepared to say the exact same words directly to him, in a face to face situation?

Jaxie Sun 04-Nov-18 14:00:42

Thank you so much Gransnetters for your kind remarks & good advice. I think I took it so badly because it came as such a shock. I was brought up to show respect to older people. I'm going to ignore him next time we meet; been practising my bitch at rest face.

lovebooks Sun 04-Nov-18 13:53:03

What an ugly little man! And yes, I would have been deeply hurt, and yes, I would have let it fester, just like you are doing. It's happened to me a couple of times, and it's nasty, and yes, we always thinks of the right responses much later, because at the time, we are in shock. Look at yourself in the mirror, and remind yourself of all the times someone special said to you: You're beautiful. And if you can't think of any, then say it to yourself. Then ignore this oaf completely.

LizHand Sun 04-Nov-18 13:50:42

I have learnt so much from my 21 yr old and observed enough in business to say...be brave and confront him. Not easy and needs to be relatively discreet to just advise him how it made you feel (jokey or not in delivery). No-one deserves that..but by ignoring, you are endorsing his totally unacceptable behaviour. My daughter recently cut down to size a longtime premiership football season ticket holder, 3x her age who had been upsetting all the men in surrounding seats for years.....and he hasnt been to a game since.......too embarrassed one hopes!!

LuckyFour Sun 04-Nov-18 13:49:25

The only thing to do would be to laugh out loud. Then say 'NICE'. Then of course walk away.