Men who dress nearly like women - Eddie Izzard

Sorry, Men who tend to dress as women

I posted this comment sometime back but here goes again.

My grandson 8 lives near Brighton. One day we were walking back from the shops when we saw the local cross dressing male pass us in a long pink flowing dress, with a matching parasol and heavy makeup. My DGS said ‘why is that lady dressed so posh’. I said that wasn’t a lady it was a man who likes to wear ladies’ clothes, I also said some females like to dress like men. ‘Ok’ he said and has never mentioned it again. I suspect this next generation will just take it in their stride, whereas I feel a bit uncomfortable, but everyone to their own.

I sometimes think my hair style resembles Grayson Perry ?

Nankate - are you sure you weren’t seeing Little Britain being filmed?

NanK

I used to know a man (who visited a neighbour) who, whilst looking very masculine facially, favoured a dress and long blonde wig, he was about mid fifties.I always thought he must have been rather brave to go about like that.

Wow - that was very brave back then! I think the world’s a far better and more interesting place for having people like Grayson Perry and Eddie Izzard people in it - creative, intelligent, talented people who push the boundaries and inject colour and life into things.

Some years ago I was in a small coffee shop in the New Forest and a man came in dressed in women's clothing. He was a big chap, quite a masculine build and he was dressed in a beautiful dress, jacket and high heeled shoes, full make up and a wig. He looked really anxious and on edge and I felt very sorry for him because it must have taken a lot of guts and bravery for him to have faced the world. So when he sat at the next table, I told him that I really liked his dress. The smile he gave me was priceless; full of relief and genuine pleasure. I'd like to think that he was accepted locally as just being a decent human being, rather than that he was a man who didn't wear stereotypical men's clothing.

No it wasn’t a filming of Little Britain SirCh it is an every day occurrence in that village. In the local coffee shop the guy who runs it with his wife looks straight but if you see him after a Gay Pride event in Brighton he is wearing sandals and has red painted toe nails.

DH and I were in Brighton one Saturday and realised there was a Gay Oride Parade through the streets. I left DH to watch whilst I went shopping. I returned later to find DH a bit discombobulated as KittyLester would say. He had been watching the march past when the man next to him started a pleasant conversation. After a little while DH looked more closely at the man to see he was wearing a rather pretty skirt. My DH is quite a smart dresser so I think he gave out the wrong vibes. ? A strong coffee got him back on track.

There's a man locally who wears all kinds of strange outfits and tends to look like a clown. A girl visits the shops wearing all the bright colours of the rainbow, clothes, makeup and hair. They both appear to be in their thirties, so quite young.

What I've noticed (and here's the public prejudice) is that people call her the rainbow girl and seem to like her - whereas he's called all sorts of nasty names, and disliked. How can folk be so judgemental based on looks alone?

kircubbin2000 is it any wonder "they isolate themselves" with opinions like these?

This is 2020, why are so many people still living in the Victorian era?

In every major city of the world there are huge parades celebrating multi-sexual identifications.

Catch up Britain.

Chewbacca what a lovely post, I’ll bet he’s always remembered your kindness

I can`t get my head around it so I switch off.

Callistemon The ones who want to be noticed go overboard and dress like Liberace in drag, so that is the standard image of a cross-dresser in some people's minds. The ones who want to wear those clothes and blend in with "normal" women do just that - blend in. You have probably passed them in the street without seeing them.

For "those clothes" read "women's" clothes. In clothes like Liberace's they would never blend in, except at a Golden Globes event!

Trisher says it all for me re Eddie Izzard.

Why is it fine for women to dress and present themselves in a wide variety of ways - yet men are expected to keep to a very limited choice of 'uniforms'. Inequality is still rife in 2020!

I like Eddie

He can dress however he likes in my opinion

I'm a strong believer in 'each to his own'. People can dress how they like, do what they like, as long as it doesn't hurt others.
Eddie Izzard is a very intelligent man, with certain issues that are his own business.

Freedom to be yourself is priceless.

He is not hurting anybody.
His only "sin" is not to follow long standing society rules, which restrict you from expressing yourself.

Good for him!

Thanks for all the observations. I live near him - often present at same events etc (its a small town, a bit everyone knows everyone). He is clearly clever, talented and does masses of good. But when in 'the presence' I feel a bit odd - lovely make up, nails etc but very masculine. Just trying to understand. I suppose that's the mistake - who does understand anyone else?

I think that is it - don't even try to understand, just accept that this is his way.

A few centuries ago, men were peacocks - Tudor and Stewart men wore silks and satins, brocade waistcoats with gold and silver thread embroidery, embroidered kid gloves, lace ruffles at the neck,heavy gold chains around their necks, diamonds hanging from their ears and embellishing the pins in their hats, and they lathered on exotic perfumes. If you could afford it, you went to town. These were not the feminised fobs their appearance might suggest - they were randy and macho, and carried swords which they knew how to use!

In the Georgian era, they still dressed to kill. It was only in Victoria's day, when puritanical Prince Albert set the one for more reserved and formal dressing, that the norm for men became as it was in the 20th Century. Don't forget that even Albert himself was less conventional in his body jewellery than you would suspect from his black-white-and-grey clothing. We have had an era of sober mainstream wear for men. It seems that is over and we are returning to older habits.

!Set the tone" not "set the one". Memo to self - preview and correct before sending.

I suppose that's the big mistake we make now. We think women should have exclusive use of make up etc. And yet not so long ago respectable women wouldn't have worn it. You would imagine that years after Adam Ant and Boy George we would have managed to be a bit more understanding.

Yes trisher and you'd also hope that judgemental bigotry would lessen but looking at number of threads on gransnet currently, I'd say its getting worse rather than better.

Iam64, I think that's just some elderly gransnet members - not society as a whole (I hope).