Men who dress nearly like women - Eddie Izzard

Trisher says it all for me re Eddie Izzard.

For "those clothes" read "women's" clothes. In clothes like Liberace's they would never blend in, except at a Golden Globes event!

Callistemon The ones who want to be noticed go overboard and dress like Liberace in drag, so that is the standard image of a cross-dresser in some people's minds. The ones who want to wear those clothes and blend in with "normal" women do just that - blend in. You have probably passed them in the street without seeing them.

I can`t get my head around it so I switch off.

Chewbacca what a lovely post, I’ll bet he’s always remembered your kindness

kircubbin2000 is it any wonder "they isolate themselves" with opinions like these?

This is 2020, why are so many people still living in the Victorian era?

In every major city of the world there are huge parades celebrating multi-sexual identifications.

Catch up Britain.

There's a man locally who wears all kinds of strange outfits and tends to look like a clown. A girl visits the shops wearing all the bright colours of the rainbow, clothes, makeup and hair. They both appear to be in their thirties, so quite young.

What I've noticed (and here's the public prejudice) is that people call her the rainbow girl and seem to like her - whereas he's called all sorts of nasty names, and disliked. How can folk be so judgemental based on looks alone?

No it wasn’t a filming of Little Britain SirCh it is an every day occurrence in that village. In the local coffee shop the guy who runs it with his wife looks straight but if you see him after a Gay Pride event in Brighton he is wearing sandals and has red painted toe nails.

DH and I were in Brighton one Saturday and realised there was a Gay Oride Parade through the streets. I left DH to watch whilst I went shopping. I returned later to find DH a bit discombobulated as KittyLester would say. He had been watching the march past when the man next to him started a pleasant conversation. After a little while DH looked more closely at the man to see he was wearing a rather pretty skirt. My DH is quite a smart dresser so I think he gave out the wrong vibes. ? A strong coffee got him back on track.

Some years ago I was in a small coffee shop in the New Forest and a man came in dressed in women's clothing. He was a big chap, quite a masculine build and he was dressed in a beautiful dress, jacket and high heeled shoes, full make up and a wig. He looked really anxious and on edge and I felt very sorry for him because it must have taken a lot of guts and bravery for him to have faced the world. So when he sat at the next table, I told him that I really liked his dress. The smile he gave me was priceless; full of relief and genuine pleasure. I'd like to think that he was accepted locally as just being a decent human being, rather than that he was a man who didn't wear stereotypical men's clothing.

Wow - that was very brave back then! I think the world’s a far better and more interesting place for having people like Grayson Perry and Eddie Izzard people in it - creative, intelligent, talented people who push the boundaries and inject colour and life into things.

I used to know a man (who visited a neighbour) who, whilst looking very masculine facially, favoured a dress and long blonde wig, he was about mid fifties.I always thought he must have been rather brave to go about like that.

NanK

Nankate - are you sure you weren’t seeing Little Britain being filmed?

I posted this comment sometime back but here goes again.

My grandson 8 lives near Brighton. One day we were walking back from the shops when we saw the local cross dressing male pass us in a long pink flowing dress, with a matching parasol and heavy makeup. My DGS said ‘why is that lady dressed so posh’. I said that wasn’t a lady it was a man who likes to wear ladies’ clothes, I also said some females like to dress like men. ‘Ok’ he said and has never mentioned it again. I suspect this next generation will just take it in their stride, whereas I feel a bit uncomfortable, but everyone to their own.

I sometimes think my hair style resembles Grayson Perry ?

Sorry, Men who tend to dress as women

any such thing ie dress like any women I know

Which is exactly what I said.

Women who tend to think they dress like women do not dress like any women I know. Not even on an evening out.

Perhaps the women you know do dress like that Elegran - flamboyantly with a lot of sequins, glitter, too much makeup.

Dressing in women's clothing as part of a sexual/gender statement doesn't come from the same motives as wishing to wear a skirt just because they like to Eddie Izzard and Grayson Perry are quite happy to be men, with wives and children. They are also happy to wear clothes which traditionally are worn by women in our culture

Eddie and Grayson both enjoy flamboyant, eccentric frocks. In fact, I may join them!

I am not sure which "any such thing" you are replying to, Callistemon.

If it was to my post, just before yours, the convention that most men follow is the trousers-and-shirt or trousers-and-T-shirt one. They are ridiculed for departing from it in much the same way that women were ridiculed and shouted after for wearing practical bloomers for riding a bicycle. If that is what they are comfortable wearing, it should be accepted as OK until men have equality to dress as they liked and no-one even notices.

But in the main these men who want to dress like women do not do any such thing.

I know very few, if any, women who dress like that.

I remember when Eddie ran all those marathons!

If someone from the past could see modern women in their jeans riding astride fast motorbikes instead of sitting in a long ful skirt, side-saddle on a quiet mare, they would probably think, "What wierdos!" On the other hand, quite a lot of those women in their hampering clothes and complicated hairstyles might have thought, "How I envy them the freedom to wear what they like instead of following convention."

I think it’s pretty disingenuous to call him a weirdo what you wear may be weird to others kircubbin a bit judgemental in your language

I've seen Eddie Izzard live he is the most amazingly funny comedian. He dresses how he chooses which is his right. I remember him saying that he changed his make up when he was earning enough to employ a make up artist. I believe he likes women, but quite honestly I don't know or care. he certainly isn't parodying anyone and some of the clothes he has worn for performances are fantastic. He's a good human being who has brought joy to millions of people, leave him alone

"so many weirdos about nowadays but as you say he is harmless....."
Eddie Izzard, a weirdo?!
He's a real talent, very bright and interesting. If he wants to dress as a woman, what's the problem.
He and Grayson Perry are heroic people.

Who is a weirdo?