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Partner puts his 30 year old son before me

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Grandma100 Mon 13-Jan-20 20:55:19

I have been with my 70 year old partner for 1 year, we live separately and my two children who are in their 30s are in relationships and I have 3 grandchildren. I am 55. He is divorced and has a daughter abroad and his son (30) who has always lived with him is a mature student at uni. When he comes home I feel like I am intruding, they do everything together and at Easter we cannot go away because his son and my partner spend it together with my partners 96 year old father. Now his daughter is coming to England on my birthday weekend in August. Part of me feels a selfish bitch and the other half feels like I want to be number one now. I love my kids and my grandchildren but we certainly do not live in each others pockets. The thing is he does no mind me going away but this makes me feel irritated as I want him to feel a little possessive! I am beginning to think the age gap is too much and I maybe need someone younger who wants to let their kids live their own lives!

jeanie99 Wed 29-Jan-20 23:05:07

From his point of view it appears you are part of his life not all of it.

I am surprised at 55 yrs old you are interested in a man at 70.

It seems you want him to put you before his family, I can't see this happening at all. He's set in his ways, as a lovely carry on with his family and why not.

Can't he just be a friend to you and you look to make other friends otherwise you'll be sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring.

Go out and get on with life

ForestsLakesandMountains Fri 17-Jan-20 20:54:05

. if you were living together/married it may be different but you dont, so you are very much free agents. it looks like there may be a difference in the level of commitment you both want from this relationship

Kupari45 Thu 16-Jan-20 10:57:17

How can your friend be your partner? You dont live together and see each other occasionally as and when.
Surely you can see why your 70 year old friend feels that close contact with his family is an important part of his life.
You asked us for our thoughts-well I think you should except that a busy lady like yourself is always going to play second fiddle to your (Partner). Far better you give yourself the opportunity to meet someone else nearer your age .

whywhywhy Thu 16-Jan-20 00:43:47

I think that you have answered your own question by just asking us. Get out and let them get on with it. You've not wasted a year as it's experience. A man nearer your age who values you for who you are and tells you that they love you. I'd rather spent time on my own than waiting for the day when I'm their carer. Take care and enjoy life, we only get one chance!!!

Missiseff Wed 15-Jan-20 21:47:53

He hasn't told you he loves you and you've been together a year??
Find someone that tells you.

Bluegrass Wed 15-Jan-20 10:22:53

Further thought...I believe and have seen a number of age gap relationships that work fantastically well. However, personally I feel that for me it would be more likely when the gap is nearer to 5-7 years.

Bluegrass Wed 15-Jan-20 10:18:46

Think about your relationship - is there passion as well as love? Passion makes couples want to be together all the time initially. If either of you do not feel this, then the relationship is not that strong. You may feel that he is a lovely person, but where is the love? I hope you will have the happiness you seek.

H1954 Wed 15-Jan-20 08:41:52

I know I commented earlier in this thread but something else has occurred to me; Could this man be stringing Grandma100 along to ensue he has a carer in the future? His father is very elderly, daughter lives away and the son..........well, he might fly the nest one day!

eagleswings Wed 15-Jan-20 08:03:13

When you are 70 it's likely you may become his carer..?
Neither of you sound really ready for this relationship. Maybe someone of 50 or 55 might suit you better..?

BlueBelle Wed 15-Jan-20 06:51:02

His family are his life grandma100 you are a pleasant and lovely extension but unfortunately for you you aren’t the centre and his actions make that quite clear
You have different goals he sees you as adding to his happy old age you see him as a future exclusive marriage partner
These two ideas both perfectly valid are NOT going to meet so as an outsider looking in I think your expectations of this relationship are always going to disappoint you
Yes his father will die and his son may follow the daughter and leave home but are you prepared to sit on the sidelines until these things happen watching your life pass you by
You are still a young lady (I have children nearly your age) this isn’t going to change any time soon you can see how happy he his with his family around him and you can clearly see his priorities I would considering moving on if you want a full on relationship/marriage with you as his exclusive love

I, like him are in my 70 s and if I had my Dad (or mum) still alive and one of my children (happily) living with me I wouldn’t change that for anyone it would be the most blissful end to my innings

Summerlove Wed 15-Jan-20 02:23:08

You have very mismatched expectations

Would you really not want to see your child who was coming in from another country over a weekend? You would skip that visit because of a boyfriend’s birthday?

welbeck Wed 15-Jan-20 02:17:09

I think you have incompatibles goals and priorities.
to the person who said he should not put his life on hold to suit his family, this is cock-eyed. they are his life. that's how it is, and your barely disguised criticism of him for that is not going to get you anywhere.
you live your life differently, that's all.
there is nothing unhealthy in his family relationships.
you will never persuade him to your way of thinking. there is a sort of passive aggressive tone in suggesting unhealthy, like mock concern.
what you really mean is that you disapprove, that he is not treating you right, and he ought to change.
sorry to be blunt, but your dissatisfaction will only grow.

Esther1 Wed 15-Jan-20 01:06:04

I think it’s perfectly normal for him to carry on with his way of life with his son and would see it as being part of the loyal family man he obviously is and find your own things to do at these times and when you get back together you’ll enjoy each other’s company even more.

GrauntyHelen Wed 15-Jan-20 00:48:32

I was in a relationship for 15 years where I was never number 1 I came after his parents/ his kids /his grandchildren it was never our time The day he took his ex wifes sisters part over me that was it Coincidentally there was a similar age gap I am now married (with an even bigger age gap) but I /we take priority over everyone else I wasted 15 years don't do that

Naty Tue 14-Jan-20 23:54:30

I think you need to just ask him how he feels. Ask him where he sees you two in a few years. Express your desire for alone time, but his family wins out. Partners come and go, but family? A GOOD family? That's forever if you nourish it. It sounds like he has his priorities in order. If you had the same relationship with your own family, you'd understand. I wouldn't make him choose. Just carve out some time for eachother by simply asking. But his dad? He's definitely got to see that man regularly.

Chardy Tue 14-Jan-20 21:05:18

Imo once there are children, a subsequent partner will never be head of the queue. Actually once there are children, the spouse/parent of these children will never be head of the queue.

MawB Tue 14-Jan-20 21:03:17

I am sensing that much is not as you would wish it in this relationship.
Are you prepared to compromise?
Is he?
How long has he lived alone (divorced or widowed?) Is he too set in his ways to have enough space in his life for you? Or are you going to have to be the one who accommodates him.
I think you need to have a hard look at what you are putting onto this relationship and what you are getting out of it.
Perhaps you can’t face getting old on your own?
There is so much to consider and I think I am sensing reservations.
An honest discussion is clearly on the cards.

Grandma100 Tue 14-Jan-20 20:38:30

Thanks for all the messages. I think a year is quite a long time these days in a relationship. He tells people we are partners so that is what I believe. However I must admit he has never told me he loves me, but shows it in many ways.
Surely when you meet someone the possibility is that you may end up marrying in the future, so your husband or wife is the priority. Kids make their own lives and move on. Parents pass away. I have looked after my mother who had dementia for 8 years and now my father, but my ex husband always came first, as did I until things turned bad. I understand he has children as do I and a father. I see mine nearly every day. But I put him first as I am trying to build a relationship. I make him feel special. But I do not feel the same. Some have advised me to get on with my life and thank you for all your advice I will get on with it as I need to start living again.

icanhandthemback Tue 14-Jan-20 20:37:55

He sounds the sort of man that I would value. Is he supposed to put his family on the back burner until you both decide whether you have a future together? I understand it might be irritating for you but I take my hat off too him especially where his 96 year old father is concerned. I think he has more to worry about his father's life running away than with yours!

Grandma100 Tue 14-Jan-20 20:30:57

Of course I do not want him to spend time with his daughter when she visits, however she may have other plans anyway. But he is making himself available in case she is spending time here, she has her mother to visit and a wedding to attend. I do think he should find out before telling me that we cannot go away on my birthday. They are adults not children. I love my kids dearly and my grandchildren and my father who I look after too. But he is my partner and once kids and parents have gone that is what we have left. My children do not put me first and I would not expect them to, they have their husbands and wives. But I am always there for them if needed.

Notagranyet12 Tue 14-Jan-20 19:30:21

I think you are entitled to call him your partner, regardless of the fact that you don't live together. You appear to be in a committed relationship and a lot of older couples do not live together these days. That does not reduce the importance or relevance of their relationship, in my opinion. If I were you, I'd just see how it goes over the next few months but I would want to feel number one. His son is a grown adult who should be beginning to stand on his own two feet. I have children (20 and 21) but I am fully aware that they will want to lead their own lives and although I will be there for them I won't be putting my life on hold to suit them and I don't think your man should either. Maybe a chat with him to gently tell him that you feel "pushed out" when his son is around may help. He may not even realise that it's an issue for you.
On a secondary note, it is quite a big age gap and if I were you I don't think I'd want to live with him or you could end up being an unpaid carer. Enjoy the relationship as it is and see how it goes. Good luck.

Londonwifi Tue 14-Jan-20 19:30:02

I’m on my second marriage of nearly 15 years, the first was 30 years. My 28 yr old son will always come before my new husband. That’s just the way it is.

Callistemon Tue 14-Jan-20 18:10:31

I want him to feel a little possessife

Be careful what you wish for.
There are threads about possessive partners causing problems.

Thomas67 Tue 14-Jan-20 18:06:45

Of course he puts his family first. Do you want to ruin the relationship between him, his father and son? It sounds a happy family thing.
You live separately . Why on earth would he curtail his life for you he enjoys it!
You say you want him to be more possessive of you. Do you really mean you want him to yourself minus his family?
I think you better find a lonely man with no family who wraps you up in cotton wool. You would be better suited.

Caro57 Tue 14-Jan-20 17:28:53

My DH is 8years older than me. We have been married 11years , not first time for either of us, and both have grown up children. Rightly or wrongly I would put my children first although everyone has left the nest