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Could anyone offer some wise words on a step daughters who openly can't stand me?

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Jamcreamandscones Thu 27-Mar-25 10:07:07

I will try to be concise and not drivel on. I have a situation that is making me feel physically ill and I don't know how to resolve it, accept it or walk away.

Late middle age and met the love of my life. I (we both openly state) that we have waited our entire lives to meet someone like the other. We are primarily best friends, love the others company & we are planning a quiet wedding over the summer.

There is a substantial age difference & this is the only comment from my side of the family. They adore him..all of them do. The age comment is absolutley appropriate. I won't go into too much detail; it's something my partner and I addressed within the first week,and we have open communication about what this could mean for the future.
With the age gap, it could realistically mean I will care for him at some stage and may well be widowed early.
I have also halted plans to foster and move abroad for work and travel.
(Please don't think us morbid or presumptuous..of course one or the other could become ill at any age but this needed discussion)

I work full time and have always provided single handedly for my children. I have lovely kids who are thoughtful, kind, fairly quiet, hard working, and used to having a very small family and no outside help of note.
I am a grandma and get on exceptionally well with my step-son from my marriage and we are in regular contact with my grand-daughter.

My fiance has adult children. Two aren't in the country and aren't likely to return. One is in the country, locally and has made it clear she cannot stand me.

I am painfully aware that there can be jealously, worry etc etc in blended families. I've been through it myself and it's painful.
My fiancé's daughter lives in close proximity to her in-laws, and extended family. Her life is very different to mine...I've always had to work. She has never worked, her husband dotes on her as do her extended family, she is abroad a lot, at spa breaks, since I've known her has been away abroad on several hen do', Ascot, concerts, hotels etc etc. Her children all have lovely extended family who support and help when she is away, scholl runs, activities. She recently was a bit stressed as they were discussing selling (one) of their many houses and her husband was having to put back his projected retirement age from 53, to 55.
When i have been stressed, it's because I have full time work, no one to collect ill kids from school, no holiday in 20 years and serious worry about covering bills and finding money for new kids trainers.

We clearly have different lives and I was absolutely aware but not preoccupied by this. Does this make sense? I have a busy life,adore my partner and we plan a quiet, simple life together.

I have tried with his daughter. Her response to me has been outwardly "nice" but always a snidey edge. I've ignored it but felt it.
My partner appeared oblivious calling his daughter "kind and thoughtful ". I struggle to see anything kind about her, anything tolerant or humble even..but have said very little as want peace and frankly, I didn't ever want there to be any questions over my love for my partner and causing ruckus would uspet him.

My partner tried to speak with her first when we got engaged. She avoided him for the week (odd behaviour) and i quietly thought she had probably twigged what was going on. When we told her, she was visibly shaken, angry, tearful, and then wouldn't speak to her dad for almost a week. She withheld contact with the grandchildren.

I could only think to stay out the way and encouraged my partner to speak to her,listen to her feelings and find out what was upsetting her.
Her response, as far as my partner felt, was completely out the blue.
He hadn't noticed or wanted to notice her tone of voice with me or her catty comments. (I'd heard them but didn't make an issue)
6 months on, she continues to not want contact with me.
She can't seem to come up with any solid reasons as to why she doesn't agree with the relationship.
She discussed it with my partner and told him she thought I was manipulative and not to br trusted. She also was disgusted that id been engaged before.
For context, I had a 25 year relationship with my (ex) husband and a 4 year relationship which I do find a bit embarrassing as he is a local man,a bit of an odd ball and yes,we were engaged for a while before I gave the ring back.

She has, I'm sure, some hardships because everyone does. However, she has incredible support from family living in the same, I'll say "country estate" as that's what it is really, lots of land, a very stable home life and loving husband, in laws, unlimited resources in general.
My thoughts were that she may think I was after money and of course we have a "pre nup" appt with solicitor, wills and with the house,it's all sorted so that I wouldn't be able to take what's not mine in any sad situation or marriage breakdown

The heartache is horrific. It's really affecting me daily. I have been cut off from a whole side of my partners family and I can't think of what I've done. It's very painful and making me feel small and anxious in a very small community where everyone knows one another.

To make it worse, my partners ex wife ( 30 years ago they divorced) had many affairs, drinks until she passes out, her partner had a punch up at the sons wedding....she is well known as joker and a drinker and jsut is quite loud and attention seeking. They actually divorced as on my partners 40th birthday he walked in on her with one of their best friends husbands. Yet...she is still very muxh part of the family and all of this behaviour is excepted. I am a really quite person with no background of note etc yet his daughter treats me like I am a peasent)
I have no idea what to do . Thanks for listening x

MaryAnne50 Tue 08-Apr-25 23:27:42

I don’t agree with the ‘why marry’ comments. You are just as entitled to marry as anyone else, however I do agree that the SD will view this as a threat to her inheritance, and as much as I hate the expectations of inheritance, I can see the issue as I’m sure you do. Has your fiance explained to SD that you are having pre-nups? That should allay the concerns - it might not improve her behaviour but it’s worth a try.

If she just doesn’t like you, let her get on with it! Bit old for strops & you and your future husband shouldn’t be dictated to by her. I’m sure her father doesn’t dictate her life. Focus on your joint happiness and let him see her on her own, you can’t make people like you.

As for the ex-wife, I’d leave well alone. Their bad behaviour is often forgotten by people who don’t like the new partner (I loathe the term interloper), and really it’s not your battle, I do appreciate your frustrations though.

Caleo Tue 08-Apr-25 19:29:33

David, the legal ease with which one can divorce is a Casanova's charter .

David49 Tue 08-Apr-25 17:04:55

Caleo

David wrote:
"Nobody 50 plus marries for sex these days, there is casual sex easily available if that’s what you want, you want. You marry for companionship, intimacy will be part of that, if you make her feel insecure it wont last long."

But both men and women over 50 sometimes do fall in love and want sex. Falling in love is not satisfied by any casual sexual encounter.

To some women and most men casual sex is OK, most women want an emotional connection for it to be “satisfying, that might be an ongoing relationship or marriage, if you’re not married you have no security.

Caleo Tue 08-Apr-25 13:54:08

David wrote:
"Nobody 50 plus marries for sex these days, there is casual sex easily available if that’s what you want, you want. You marry for companionship, intimacy will be part of that, if you make her feel insecure it wont last long."

But both men and women over 50 sometimes do fall in love and want sex. Falling in love is not satisfied by any casual sexual encounter.

David49 Tue 08-Apr-25 09:00:05

Caleo

No, I think David is right, that most women want security. Not necessarily financial security or commitment to any offspring, but those as well.

Most women are aware that men generally want sex more than they want companionship and affection. Not always, but often.
Some women too prefer sex to companionship and affection. The culture unfortunately is 'laddish'. I imagine more often it's the woman who gets dumped.

Nobody 50 plus marries for sex these days, there is casual sex easily available if that’s what you want, you want. You marry for companionship, intimacy will be part of that, if you make her feel insecure it wont last long.

welbeck Mon 07-Apr-25 22:15:19

Ah that old adage
Marriage is the price men pay for sex
Sex is the price women pay for marriage

Caleo Mon 07-Apr-25 22:09:01

No, I think David is right, that most women want security. Not necessarily financial security or commitment to any offspring, but those as well.

Most women are aware that men generally want sex more than they want companionship and affection. Not always, but often.
Some women too prefer sex to companionship and affection. The culture unfortunately is 'laddish'. I imagine more often it's the woman who gets dumped.

Cossy Mon 07-Apr-25 16:27:36

Norah Exactly! I had my house and mortgage long before I met and married my husband!

Norah Mon 07-Apr-25 16:23:36

David49

Caleo

JamCreamandScones, you and your lover would be better to not marry but simply remain lovers for the rest of your lives. If you love each other there is no need for any ceremonial or legal arrangements.

Why would you want to marry? Is it because you don't trust each other?

In fairness most women want security, for most marriage is the way to get that.
The alternative is a bequest in his will, which is fine as long as the will remains unchanged or indeed unchallenged. Marriage guarantees the surviving spouse will be provided for, even if it may not be all that’s expected.
There is another thread current where the OP is insecure because her husband won’t reassure her there is provision in his will.
This kind of uncertainty spoils many relationships and really should be avoided.

David49, oh gracious, what century do you live in?

David49 Mon 07-Apr-25 12:18:35

Caleo

JamCreamandScones, you and your lover would be better to not marry but simply remain lovers for the rest of your lives. If you love each other there is no need for any ceremonial or legal arrangements.

Why would you want to marry? Is it because you don't trust each other?

In fairness most women want security, for most marriage is the way to get that.
The alternative is a bequest in his will, which is fine as long as the will remains unchanged or indeed unchallenged. Marriage guarantees the surviving spouse will be provided for, even if it may not be all that’s expected.
There is another thread current where the OP is insecure because her husband won’t reassure her there is provision in his will.
This kind of uncertainty spoils many relationships and really should be avoided.

Caleo Mon 07-Apr-25 11:22:35

BTW, why is your spelling so bad? Just an idea, but is the daughter snobbish about you level of education?

Caleo Mon 07-Apr-25 11:17:00

If I may add to the post from RedBlueandGreen, I'd remark that if your lover is well off financially, then your need to receive an assurance that he appreciates you will include that he leave you a sum of money in his will as a gesture of concern for your future welfare and of his appreciation of you as a person. It all depends on how well off your lover is.

If you are a self sufficient person who is happy with an informal relationship then why marry? You need to examine your motives. The man's daughter is a side issue, she feels as she feels.

Retroladywriting Sun 06-Apr-25 11:31:52

Someone once said to me that you can't change what people think about you, but you can change how you react to it.

By coming on here and sharing so many details, you are reacting badly. Leave her alone; you can't change the way she feels (justified or not) and either marry your lover or not. You are an adult and so is she. It is what it is. Good or bad.

Redblueandgreen Sun 06-Apr-25 10:49:10

For someone who says they’re not materialistic, you talk a lot about money in your post. This doesn’t mean you are greedy but it does indicate to me that money and security is important to you (understandably so given what you’ve said about bringing your kids up) but it does mean that it’s important to you in a way that it probably isn’t to the daughter (because she’s never had to worry about it). This concern for money and stability will possibly be alien to her but may mean that she sees you as very different to her and her family.

Redblueandgreen Sun 06-Apr-25 10:44:47

OP you talk about how you struggled and worked hard and had nothing handed to you on a plate. This is in contrast to what comes across regarding your partners daughter - that she has in some ways had it easier than you. It comes across that you have some resentment towards her for this and that you almost feel superior to her because you didn’t have what she had and you had to work harder than she has. Do you think she picks up on this and don you think this makes her want to like you more?

Dibbydod Sun 06-Apr-25 09:52:57

If you’re not materialistic as you say , then why the need to rush into marriage , for what purpose ? you can still live happily together ., then all the problems that you are facing with his daughter won’t be no more . Marriage isn’t everything , just a wedding ring and piece of paper tucked into the drawer . It won’t make you any happier will it ., just worse by the sounds of it .

Caleo Sun 06-Apr-25 09:10:39

PS, JamCreamand Scones, he sounds great and I envy you having such a lover, and so late in life too. Well done both of you!

Caleo Sun 06-Apr-25 09:05:48

JamCreamandScones, you and your lover would be better to not marry but simply remain lovers for the rest of your lives. If you love each other there is no need for any ceremonial or legal arrangements.

Why would you want to marry? Is it because you don't trust each other?

Dorrain Sun 06-Apr-25 08:38:06

Give her space and try not to let her/the situation get under your skin. In time she may come around, but until them you may have to just 'suck it up'.

Redblueandgreen Sun 06-Apr-25 08:22:50

There are some things about this situation you can’t change. He’s had a life and family before you. I think you’re going to have to accept that and tolerate the irritations or walk away.

Nuttynanna2 Sun 06-Apr-25 08:20:36

It's really quite simple, she is concerned about inheritance.

David49 Sun 06-Apr-25 06:28:11

In most second marriages/relationships there is one or more family member(s) that does not like or accept the new interloper.
Many reasons often financial, all you can do is rise above it, if you love him get married, you can’t please all of the people all the time.

can do is rise above it and

Allsorts Sat 05-Apr-25 18:24:29

You may never be accepted by his daughter so if that bothers you then don't marry, otherwise just be civil when you see her as it is unlikely to be a big part of your life.
If Silverbrooks appraisal is right I can understand the daughters worry.

MercuryQueen Thu 27-Mar-25 21:08:26

You didn’t answer about the age gap between you and his daughter. Guessing that’s at least part of the problem

Silverbrooks Thu 27-Mar-25 20:38:13

I have an almost photographic memory which is why I remember things and remember the last time you posted about this issue but under another name. It was only a few weeks ago.

It was just ten months ago, 3 May 2024 to be precise, that you wrote here : for four years I have been desperately in love with my partner. I thought I'd found my person.

That was a different man altogether - the one you are now describing as a 4 year relationship which I do find a bit embarrassing as he is a local man, a bit of an odd ball and yes, we were engaged for a while before I gave the ring back. Again, you posted a huge amount of detail about his life and his unpleasant children.

Five years before that, posting in 2019, you were still married to someone else.

Here you are in March 2025 saying:

My partner tried to speak with her first when we got engaged … When we told her, she was visibly shaken, angry, tearful, and then wouldn't speak to her dad for almost a week. She withheld contact with the grandchildren … 6 months on, she continues to not want contact with me.

Working back in time, you say you got engaged six months ago so that would be say October 2024 … less than six months after you were bereft over this other man you were desperately in love with.

You seem to have got over him very quickly to have met someone so soon who has become the latest love of your life and become engaged so quickly. These things happen but I can see why it might be looked upon as suspicious and hasty.

In January 2024, you said you were living in a caravan. I could be homeless with my children any day and the local authority can't help me.

If everybody in this small community knows one another, knows one another’s business, and you say the daughter was disgusted that I’d been engaged before, so she knows you were on the rebound and from whom, knows your background and maybe knows that you literally seem to go from one man to another, can you not understand why she might be worrying about what her father is getting into?

I am sorry that you have been through some difficult times but you must be able to see why the thought of this planned marriage is worrying her so much, and what your motives might be even if you claim they are not material.

The very obvious answer is to not get married; to not rush headlong into this, if at all. Where’s the fire?