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Could anyone offer some wise words on a step daughters who openly can't stand me?

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Cossy Thu 27-Mar-25 18:37:46

Again, get married, if that’s what you both want.

If this was me I’d keep it very low key and discrete but would advite all “children” from both side.

Any to choose not to attend are making their own choices and decisions.

Just always remain calm and polite when discussing her or seeing her.

Debbi58 Thu 27-Mar-25 18:04:14

Sometimes we just have to accept that some people will never give us a chance or try and get to know us . I find it easier to just except the situation, let your future husband have the relationship he wants with his daughter. You have the right to not have to deal with her poor treatment of you .

eazybee Thu 27-Mar-25 17:28:25

I thought the scenario seemed familiar.
The stepdaughter doesn't want a step-mum and may be concerned about her inheritance.
Nothing to be done; they are not going to live under the same roof so it does not matter.

Grammaretto Thu 27-Mar-25 16:18:23

Why do you have to marry?
Can't you live happily as you are now?
This is causing his DD grief which you insist you don't want - so don't! You have the choice.

I know a couple in a similar situation to yours. His grown DC, particularly the DD think the "other woman" is a gold digger. She lets him pay for their holidays together because he is far better off than her. They have no intention to marry but still his DD is jealous.

Elowen33 Thu 27-Mar-25 16:16:45

You cannot make somebody like you, there are people I do not like and I assume there are those you do not like.

You do not have to attend their family events especially as her mother will be there, so will have limited contact with her.

BlessedArt Thu 27-Mar-25 16:07:03

I’m going to give you some tough love here. Drop the rope and get on with life. You’re giving all of this power to this woman.

This isn’t a situation where his teen or young daughter hates the new step mum. She’s a grown woman who is a mother herself.

You don’t need to play happy family and it would do you some good to reframe this idea of how this blended family will look. It is unfortunate for sure that adults can’t live and let live. But in life we don’t all always get along.

You two only need to be civil toward one another because respect is owed both ways. Taper your expectations. Spend only the time with her absolutely necessary. Live and enjoy your life. We all deserve to be happy.

crazyH Thu 27-Mar-25 16:02:34

It’s sad when these things happen.
My ex-husband has re-married, although she is not exactly a spring chicken, she is 10years younger than him. I was only 3 years younger. As my friend jokingly said - you had the best of him. She’s having the worst….She was right. Since leaving, he has had 2 heart attacks. But, I have to say this. She does seem to love him and cares well for him.

Allira Thu 27-Mar-25 15:51:53

Except I don’t think this is a particularly safe space. This is a public forum where stories get picked up by the main media and are also repeated on Mumsnet, as stories from Mumsnet are repeated here.

I agree with Silverbrooks
This can be read by anyone and stories have been published in newspapers and magazines. People can be identified and thst could make the situation worse, sadly.

You call your partner's daughter a step-daughter but she is not, yet. The whole situation seems fraught with difficulties and, if you marry, your partner could feel he has to choose between you and your family and his own family.
Christmas, birthdays, family occasions, will always be difficult.
You may start to feel resentful that you have given up on your dreams of travel and may end up caring for an old man instead.

Is he worth it?

silverlining48 Thu 27-Mar-25 15:19:10

Should have said they were only married for 3 years.

silverlining48 Thu 27-Mar-25 15:16:37

If you are anywhere near your partners children’s ages then that could be a problem. As sago said it’s often about inheritance.
My sil’s father remarried after he had been diagnosed with cancer. When he died he left his entire estate to his new wife. His children who had stayed in his life and were wit h him throughout his illness and when he died, were not left anything, perhaps he wrongly thought his new wife would share, but she didn’t.
Her children on the other hand ( they all knew each other) suddenly living the high life with expensive holidays, new cars etc. while my sil and his siblings looked on.
It was upsetting and created a lot of hard feelings.
This is not rare, happens a lot.

Cabbie21 Thu 27-Mar-25 15:14:22

Step- relationships can be enriching or fraught with difficulties. At least you would not be living with a teenager step-daughter. Surely father and daughter can meet separately, without you?

LaCrepescule Thu 27-Mar-25 14:55:22

Why can’t you accept your good fortune at meeting someone who makes you so happy and wants to spend the rest of his life with you and woman-up about his daughter?
You want everything your way and life’s not like that. If it’s making you physically ill you probably need some counselling.
We only let other people affect us if we’re not emotionally intelligent and your post just read as a “poor me” rant.
I’d suggest you try practising some gratitude.

JdotJ Thu 27-Mar-25 14:48:25

Lies, lies, lies

Sago Thu 27-Mar-25 14:48:23

In my experience this kind of behaviour is usually caused by greed.
Your fiancés daughter probably just wants to know how your marriage will impact her inheritance.

Lathyrus3 Thu 27-Mar-25 14:41:16

I don’t really understand what it is that you want from them.

Reading your post it sounds like you have this idea of a whole family of which you will be an integral part.

But it isn’t a whole family is it?

Your fiancée is divorced from the mother so presumably there’s get togethers that are just mum, daughter, son without father. Is it these you want to be part of?

Or that he is included in meeting up but not you?

Or that daughter wants to see him without you?

Your post is quite full of how you feel but not very specific about what it is that is causing you angst.

Silverbrooks Thu 27-Mar-25 14:21:54

Except I don’t think this is a particularly safe space. This is a public forum where stories get picked up by the main media and are also repeated on Mumsnet, as stories from Mumsnet are repeated here. It only takes for your lover’s daughter, one of her friend’s or other family members, or her mother, to read what you are posting and they will recognise immediately who is being discussed publicly and repeatedly. You said yourself, this is a very small community where everyone knows one another. And here you are name-calling his ex-wife as a drinker and adulterer, loud and attention seeking. He has to live with his family in this small community, whatever their history. Publicly exposing his cuckolded past and criticising his ex-wife does you no favours.

How do you think this family, that you say you want to be part of, would react if they read what you write about them? Maybe they already have. Do you think it would make them like you?

You say you don’t dislike the family but it also comes across in the things you say about your lover’s daughter and her husband e.g. your pointed comment, She recently was a bit stressed as they were discussing selling (one) of their many houses and her husband was having to put back his projected retirement age from 53, to 55. That sounds very much like schadenfreude on your part and rather sour.

Again, I ask why the rush to get married? That may well be why his daughter is upset and worried about this, that her old father is making a fool of himself with a much younger women. May to December romances will always provoke gossip much more so in a very small community where everyone knows one another. She may feel she is being made a fool of by association, being teased by friends - there goes your inheritance. That’s just speculation but as your lover doesn’t seem to be able to talk to his daughter to elicit what is really behind all this, then who’s to know?

Jamcreamandscones Thu 27-Mar-25 13:04:06

It's a really difficult situation and yes has been going on a while. Does it matter that i may have posted before or again in the future. This is a safe space to talk, as I allow other to do.

I quite happily reply to people,sometimes even when I think I've heard a similar story. There are lots of people in similar situations and the same,or similar will repeat...that's what helps us to share our thoughts. I'm asking for thought's on the experience and to see if anyone has lived through this.

I don't dislike any of his family.
I have friends and family from all walks of life and with various resources either earnt or given. I don't want a different lifestyle or hanker for more. I was quite happy with everyone having space to be a daughter,father,etc etc. I have never wanted to be in anyones way

My partner hasn't actually seen his daughter for weeks as is distraught at her behaviour. It's incredibly sad for him too as he doesn't understand it He has stated she is acting like a spoiled toddler. I havent commented as its not helpful for me to do so.
I hope she sort of comes round to it but I dont think she will and it forces my partner into horrible corners that I don't want him to be in. He doesn't deserve it. He is so kind and patient..gives so much time to everyone around him
I'd have walked away but he is persuading me to stay. It's just very sad for everyone I think.
Thanks for the input.

Silverbrooks Thu 27-Mar-25 12:50:58

You have posted several times before about your current and historic relationships, using a different name. You give so much detail, before and now, that any parties to this would recognise themselves in it, as will anyone here who has tried to give you advice before.

If I am remembering correcty, you asked for the previous thread(s) to be deleted but here you are, back again, telling the same story.

It’s clear you haven’t taken any notice of the advice you were given before and are doggedly going on with this.

Nothing has changed and nothing will change. You don’t like your lover’s daughter and she doesn’t like you. You are critical of her lifestyle and that of your lover’s ex wife so why should you expect them to welcome you? It cuts both ways.

If memory serves, you haven’t know this man for very long so why the rush to marry? You talked about pe-nups before but they are not automatically legally binding in the UK. His daughter may well have concerns about the way you two are rushing into things and how this could affect inheritance. If he is so much older than you (and I recall the age gap is considerable) then that issue could come any time soon.

You will be marrying him not his family but they will always be part of his life for as long as he lives so you either find peace with how they are or move on.

You may think that what I have said is harsh but if this is making you physically sick, as you claim, them you really should consider moving on, moving abroad even, which you say is one of your options. Have a fresh start. If he loves you as much as he claims then he’d go with you but something tells me that he wouldn’t and, if push came to shove, he would chose his family.

Cossy Thu 27-Mar-25 10:52:26

Don’t let this (awful sounding) woman spoil the rest of your life!

I’m a step-mum, and have been for 28 years, I met this lovely girl when her father and I got together and she was 12. I had a son of 10 of my own, and we now have 3 further shared children and a wonderful blended family.

Sometimes things work and sometimes they don’t, you need to follow your heart, not criticise this woman to her Dad and get married and enjoy your futures together.

I do wish you both the very best luck and a lovely future. thanks

Jamcreamandscones Thu 27-Mar-25 10:22:31

Cossy

Well, “Mum” is going to be accepted, as she’s their mother.

Potential step-daughter clearly sees you as a threat.

What is the age gap between you and her?

It actually doesn’t matter if she does or doesn’t like you, you’re about to marry her father, not her.

So long as you two love each other and can see yourself living a good life together, I’d stop worrying, marry your man and be content with him and your side of the family x thanks

Thank you..that's a very level and thoughtful response.

Some of this is that I'm disappointed I think that this level of disdain is even happening.

I hated my own step mum but that's because she removed us from our home,made us unwelcome as little children, dominated my dad and eventually turned him against us with horrible lies. It's taken years to really build our relationship with our dad and that was after they divorced.

I am peaceful and have nothing to hide about my past, my choices or the way I live..I'm horribly boring really.
She lives locally with all her family and I don't really have anyone here within several hundred miles.
It's made me feel very isolated.

I hadn't planned on staying here in this part of the country or even this country full time...and don't know how to feel settled somewhere that locally I have no real connection apart from my partner.
I do really love this man and I know he feels the same.
Thank you x

Cossy Thu 27-Mar-25 10:14:15

Well, “Mum” is going to be accepted, as she’s their mother.

Potential step-daughter clearly sees you as a threat.

What is the age gap between you and her?

It actually doesn’t matter if she does or doesn’t like you, you’re about to marry her father, not her.

So long as you two love each other and can see yourself living a good life together, I’d stop worrying, marry your man and be content with him and your side of the family x thanks

Jamcreamandscones Thu 27-Mar-25 10:07:07

I will try to be concise and not drivel on. I have a situation that is making me feel physically ill and I don't know how to resolve it, accept it or walk away.

Late middle age and met the love of my life. I (we both openly state) that we have waited our entire lives to meet someone like the other. We are primarily best friends, love the others company & we are planning a quiet wedding over the summer.

There is a substantial age difference & this is the only comment from my side of the family. They adore him..all of them do. The age comment is absolutley appropriate. I won't go into too much detail; it's something my partner and I addressed within the first week,and we have open communication about what this could mean for the future.
With the age gap, it could realistically mean I will care for him at some stage and may well be widowed early.
I have also halted plans to foster and move abroad for work and travel.
(Please don't think us morbid or presumptuous..of course one or the other could become ill at any age but this needed discussion)

I work full time and have always provided single handedly for my children. I have lovely kids who are thoughtful, kind, fairly quiet, hard working, and used to having a very small family and no outside help of note.
I am a grandma and get on exceptionally well with my step-son from my marriage and we are in regular contact with my grand-daughter.

My fiance has adult children. Two aren't in the country and aren't likely to return. One is in the country, locally and has made it clear she cannot stand me.

I am painfully aware that there can be jealously, worry etc etc in blended families. I've been through it myself and it's painful.
My fiancé's daughter lives in close proximity to her in-laws, and extended family. Her life is very different to mine...I've always had to work. She has never worked, her husband dotes on her as do her extended family, she is abroad a lot, at spa breaks, since I've known her has been away abroad on several hen do', Ascot, concerts, hotels etc etc. Her children all have lovely extended family who support and help when she is away, scholl runs, activities. She recently was a bit stressed as they were discussing selling (one) of their many houses and her husband was having to put back his projected retirement age from 53, to 55.
When i have been stressed, it's because I have full time work, no one to collect ill kids from school, no holiday in 20 years and serious worry about covering bills and finding money for new kids trainers.

We clearly have different lives and I was absolutely aware but not preoccupied by this. Does this make sense? I have a busy life,adore my partner and we plan a quiet, simple life together.

I have tried with his daughter. Her response to me has been outwardly "nice" but always a snidey edge. I've ignored it but felt it.
My partner appeared oblivious calling his daughter "kind and thoughtful ". I struggle to see anything kind about her, anything tolerant or humble even..but have said very little as want peace and frankly, I didn't ever want there to be any questions over my love for my partner and causing ruckus would uspet him.

My partner tried to speak with her first when we got engaged. She avoided him for the week (odd behaviour) and i quietly thought she had probably twigged what was going on. When we told her, she was visibly shaken, angry, tearful, and then wouldn't speak to her dad for almost a week. She withheld contact with the grandchildren.

I could only think to stay out the way and encouraged my partner to speak to her,listen to her feelings and find out what was upsetting her.
Her response, as far as my partner felt, was completely out the blue.
He hadn't noticed or wanted to notice her tone of voice with me or her catty comments. (I'd heard them but didn't make an issue)
6 months on, she continues to not want contact with me.
She can't seem to come up with any solid reasons as to why she doesn't agree with the relationship.
She discussed it with my partner and told him she thought I was manipulative and not to br trusted. She also was disgusted that id been engaged before.
For context, I had a 25 year relationship with my (ex) husband and a 4 year relationship which I do find a bit embarrassing as he is a local man,a bit of an odd ball and yes,we were engaged for a while before I gave the ring back.

She has, I'm sure, some hardships because everyone does. However, she has incredible support from family living in the same, I'll say "country estate" as that's what it is really, lots of land, a very stable home life and loving husband, in laws, unlimited resources in general.
My thoughts were that she may think I was after money and of course we have a "pre nup" appt with solicitor, wills and with the house,it's all sorted so that I wouldn't be able to take what's not mine in any sad situation or marriage breakdown

The heartache is horrific. It's really affecting me daily. I have been cut off from a whole side of my partners family and I can't think of what I've done. It's very painful and making me feel small and anxious in a very small community where everyone knows one another.

To make it worse, my partners ex wife ( 30 years ago they divorced) had many affairs, drinks until she passes out, her partner had a punch up at the sons wedding....she is well known as joker and a drinker and jsut is quite loud and attention seeking. They actually divorced as on my partners 40th birthday he walked in on her with one of their best friends husbands. Yet...she is still very muxh part of the family and all of this behaviour is excepted. I am a really quite person with no background of note etc yet his daughter treats me like I am a peasent)
I have no idea what to do . Thanks for listening x