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KatGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 07-Jul-14 16:12:36

In this powerful and compelling 'view from old age', Penelope Lively, at 80, reports back on what she finds. There are meditations on what it is like to be old as well as on how memory shapes us. There are intriguing examinations of key personal as well as historical moments she has lived through and her thoughts on her own bookishness - both as reader and writer. Lastly, she turns to six treasured possessions to speak eloquently about who she is and where she's been - fragments of memories from a life well lived.

We're giving away 50 copies of Ammonites & Leaping Fish by Penelope Lively - just fill in the form here.

'fraid all the free copies are gone, but for those who receive and read the book (and indeed anyone else!!), please do post your questions and comments for Penelope on this thread. She'll be answering your questions on 7 August 1-2pm.

PenelopeLively Thu 07-Aug-14 13:09:48

Terrafirma1

Have just started Ammonites and Leaping Fish - for which Thank you! I am bowled over already by so much good sense in such a short space- and I am onl y on P 34! The phrase " the dimishment of age particularly resonates as DH has mobility issues which inevitably impact our leisure activities as a couple. How reassuring then to read"perhaps there is some benign mechanism that aligns diminished capacity with diminished desire" and I no longer need to feel guilty becsuse I am not trekking in the Himalayas or climbing Macchu Pichu , nor do I want to. Back to the book! I know what I am doing for the rest of today smile

Yes, I do think that there is some benign mechanism that means in old age you are simply just not so greedy for experience. My own loss of greed is an absolute refusal to travel anymore. I simply don't want to, and also I find I'm no longer so acquisitive! I don't want any more things. I only get acquisitive when I am in a garden centre and then lust springs again!

PenelopeLively Thu 07-Aug-14 13:07:23

seclusion

Thank you for Penelope Livlely's book. I have enjoyed it and as I am
an old grandmother - in my eighties - many of her experiences have been
mine. She writes so well about how it feels to be old. My greatest
pleasure is reading and one of the few blessings of being old, if you
live alone and have no responsibilities, is being able to read as much as you
like - all night if you want to. As she is a writer she puts into words many
of my thoughts and feelings. I have found that as I have grown older
I have become much more appreciative. I am so grateful for kindnesses
from family and strangers. I have hearing loss and even though I have
hearing aids I find it difficult to understand speech and so conversation
and telephone calls are fraught. Thank goodness for subtitiles.
I am sure I have read some of Penelope's books as her name is so familiar
and I will take pleasure in reading or rereading them. I look forward to
August 7th and will come on to Granset although I am not sure what a
webchat is but will find out.

I'm interested that you find you have shared my experiences and especially the importance of reading to you. For me, reading is absolutely essential. If I haven't had an hour or so every day reading, it hasn't been a proper day. Yes, I think in old age we become very sensitive to the way other people behave towards us and we appreciate those who have some perception of the various nuisances of old age. Our generation is lucky in that wonderfully effective hearing aids are now available!

PenelopeLively Thu 07-Aug-14 13:04:18

annodomini

My copy has arrived but I will be away on the day of the web chat. I am going to put it in my suitcase to read on holiday. I love all her books. Sorry I will miss the web chat.

annodomini

Tegan, are you perhaps thinking of 'How It All Began'? That was a great favourite of mine as it dealt with a aspect of ageing which concerns me. I can't help imagining what would happen if I had a damaging fall. Did you write this from personal experience, Penelope, or were you thinking through what might happen?

Yes it must be how it all began, and yes to some extent this did come from personal experience. I had a fall in the street - no great damage done - but it sparked off the idea that had been in my mind for a long time of a novel that would address the extraordinary way in which our lives are directed by accidents as much as by decision.

PenelopeLively Thu 07-Aug-14 13:02:24

Lablander

My very welcome copy arrived in today's post - thank you so much. Stopped what I was doing to start reading; no delayed gratification here. Enjoying it as much as Oleander, Jacaranda and A House Unlocked, both of which I use in my creative writing classes and workshops - as examples of the value and power of memory in writing. And simply because they are just such wonderful books . . .

So glad my books have struck a chord with you and delighted that you find them useful in your creative writing classes. I hope Ammonites will live up to expectations!

GigiGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 07-Aug-14 12:52:55

Good afternoon everyone, we're thrilled to have Penelope here at a rather hot and sticky GNHQ now. She's having a cool drink before getting down to answering all your questions and comments so do say "Hi" smile

MiceElf Thu 07-Aug-14 07:36:31

One of the sentences that resonated most with me was where you lamented that you will not know what comes after your death. What will happen to grandchildren, how will they flourish or not. I feel sadness that I shall not know, and I do wonder how memories of me will remain with them when they reach old age. Your grandchildren are older than mine; have you asked them how they see you - what they remember from earlier in their childhoods about the things you did together and the conversations which you had?

Maniac Wed 06-Aug-14 22:13:59

Dear Penelope
I'm enjoying your book so much.Just 2 years older than you I can remember many of the happenings you mention.and appreciate your thoughts on ageing. I've long been a fan of your books which I shall reread and read those I've missed.
Like gardenoma I shall break my rule about scribbling in books and underline some of your thoughts about life and ageing

Growing up in poverty in a home with few books I still developed a thirst for reading.passed the 'scholarship'exam did well at school passed the School Certificate you mention (now O levels) and went on to a science degree at London Uni
Last year I paid my first visit to Cheltenham book festival.Sorry I missed your event there.
I've had a full and varied life but not done much writing! My children urge me to write my life story.I've recently started a simple blog for friends and family.have you any tips?

joannapiano Wed 06-Aug-14 20:52:12

How heartening to read an upbeat book about ageing.
The phrase on the first page-"We go, but hang in for a while in other people's heads-" made me smile as I have always felt it would be very nice (sorry to use that word folks!) if I lingered a bit in my 8 GC's
thoughts occasionally, after I pop my clogs. A comforting thought.
"How will life unroll for my grandchildren?",-a question all of us are curious/anxious about. On that note-does the author think it likely that any of her grandchildren will follow her footsteps and become a writer?
Perhaps Izzie with her vintage typewriter?

emmasnan Wed 06-Aug-14 13:53:51

I enjoyed your book, it made me realise that there are benefits to being older!
I especially liked the chapter where you had chosen a few items to mark stages in your life. Did you find it difficult to narrow it down to those few?

MiceElf Wed 06-Aug-14 06:42:57

So many questions, but the first one I'd like to ask was what made you change from children's fiction to adult fiction? I remember reading, Astercote, The Ghost of Thomas Kempe and the others to my children and being entranced. We were all sad that more books for children didn't appear.

Brummiegran Tue 05-Aug-14 22:33:22

The Road To Lichfield was your first book for adults. I read it only a few years ago and found it an inspiringly realistic view of middle age. Do you find it easier to write non fiction/memoirs nowadays? If so why?

Pulp Tue 05-Aug-14 08:39:35

One thing that irritates me about getting older is that people seem to stereotype you instantly - they think - oh grey haired woman and patronise you or talk loudly to you and it makes me very cross. Have you found this - and have you been able to rise above it if so (in which case you are certainly a better woman than me!) Thank you for so many happy hours of reading over the years

CuriousCat Tue 05-Aug-14 08:29:28

We are an ageing population no question- I think it's something like one in four (may be wrong!) baby girls born today will live to 100. But do you think the wider world (or the wider population of the UK at least) accepts that or are they burying their heads in the sand and ignoring us "invisible women"?

gardenoma Tue 05-Aug-14 08:26:29

I never scribble in my books but there is always a first time!
Got my pencil out in the first chapter, there were so many lines which struck so many chords, so now i put my pencil away as i could barely see PL's text anymore.
It is good to see such a non moaning, very realistic and thoughtful view of getting older.
It is also the first time i have read anything on ageing which hasnt left me feeling in any way despondent. Thank you

GeminiJen Tue 05-Aug-14 00:10:13

Re. Biggles.....Thanks, Tegan!

stitchinggran Mon 04-Aug-14 16:13:30

Hello Penelope and thanks for coming to chat to us. What age have you yourself most enjoyed to date?

Gagagran Mon 04-Aug-14 08:06:54

I love this book. It puts into words, better than I ever could, what it feels like to be old and how "old" is defined at different ages,

I'd like to ask what Penelope thinks of the assisted dying debate. Is it something she would use herself?

ajanela Fri 01-Aug-14 17:45:44

In 1968 I was working as a nurse in Fords Motor plant in Dagenham. At the time the 187 women machinist went on strike in protest about their low wages compared to the men and with the help of Barbara Castle they influenced the bring about of the Equal Pay act in 1970.

What important changes do you see in Women's lives in your life time and has everything been for the best?

Stansgran Fri 01-Aug-14 10:19:42

I'm half way through and agreed with every word. I've still got some years to catch up with PL but I also agree about making the choice of not travelling. If I never see the Gare du Nord again it won't be a day too soon.(I have just left it and reading as I travel) I love the cover. How much input do you have in choosing the design? Do the publishers just say we think this will sell or do you say I would like such and such on the cover?

somewherehot Thu 31-Jul-14 17:23:37

out of all the many wonderful books you have written do you have a favourite

Nelly Thu 31-Jul-14 17:16:17

In my opinion getting older has changed very much over the last generation or two. 60 used to be old. Now it is positively young (or is that just because I'm there now and in denial?) I would love to hear her thoughts on how "old" has changed

Rosannie Thu 31-Jul-14 13:43:02

I've just returned from holiday and was delighted to find a copy of Penelope Lively 's book behind the door. I have Moon Tiger and A House Unlocked on my bookshelves and I'm looking forward to reading Penelope's latest book, it sounds interesting!

Roarr Wed 30-Jul-14 13:18:23

Hello! I'm still reading the book - love it so far. I'd like to ask, do you think ageing is easier for men than women?

SwishySwoshy Wed 30-Jul-14 13:11:02

Hi Penelope - what sort of gran are you?!

keriku Wed 30-Jul-14 10:23:07

I particularly liked how she chose a few items which were special to her to mark the story of her life. It made me wonder which items I would choose. It also made me think as I always do of all the items we see shuddering on shelves in charity shops, vintage stores etc and of the stories which lie behind the. Items don't have to be valuable to have great value to the owner! Thank you gransnet, for once again sending me a lovely book to review.