Attacks in Paris

Why it does not matter that most Muslims are peace-loving.
qpolitical.com/someone-said-muslims-bad-woman-delivers-amazing-response/

gillybob you ask "so what"? Well, for a start it means those women are choosing not to follow that particular Muslim tradition. They're demonstrating free choice which is not an option for radical Islamists. They're demonstrating that they're integrated into our society.

The whole panel was extremist, but they did not break the law. They believe in most of ISIS believes in - and they are all known to the security services. Do I like them holding that meeting? Absolutely not, but then again I would think the same about the BNP or any other extremist group. I support free speech, but it comes with responsibility and expect the law to be upheld.

Well there we have it. Well said that woman. Excellent link janeainsworth.

I think perhaps you should take a look at jane's link wilma.

Fantastic link JA - what a great speaker, she presented a powerful argument, that in war situations the peaceful majority are irrelevant this is something that needs to be said more often.

Wow.

But I feel sorry for the Muslim girl. Did the woman have to sound so aggressive?

And the fact does remain. Most Muslims are peaceful.

Can't really see the point of that bullying outburst. The girl was titled to express hew view without having all that chucked at her. And she herself was regretful there were no other Muslims there to back her up.

entitled. express her view

I didn't feel sorry for her at all jings her intention was clear although the forceful response probably shocked her.

Yes I think you are probably right that most Muslims are peaceful. But as the lady in the link said it is not most Muslims we need to be worrying about. I would like to see "most Muslims" stand up and condemn terrorism though.

gillybob I saw that video when it was first published. I then did a bit of research and found that Brigitte Gabriel is one of the most controversial right wingers in the USA. She is known for making inflammatory speeches and has been accused by her country of origin of elaborating her childhood during the Lebanese civil war. To me she's worse than Donald Trump because she's clearly intelligent. The student Sabah Ahmed isn't much better because she joined a Benghazi Accountability Coalition (BAC) meeting about the 4 US soldiers killed Benghazi in 2012 and asked a question not relevant to the subject of the meeting. So she was also acting in an inflammatory manner.

For me the video is right wing propaganda, but people will believe what they want to believe.

What do you reckon her intention was?

Not sure what she meant about fighting the war "ideologically" though. How would we do that?

She sounded innocent enough.

Yes Wilma. That's the impression I got. Something wasn't quite right there.

this is how the event continued

She sounds ok to me.

As is often the case, these snippets only show part of the whole picture. I still have to agree with the statement that its doesn't matter that most Muslims are peace loving.

I would like to see all of those "peace loving" Muslims speak out againt the radicals and extremists.

The problem is that the right wing will flourish in these kinds of conditions.

I assumed she meant fighting a war against ideology jings

A good question from the guy at the end asking "who the leader of the Muslim peace movement is right now?"

Wilma I think what people are actually saying is more important than where on the political spectrum they originate.

Jingle, I respect soons faith, I cannot agree with her posting verses which suit her views,

Take your pick Jingle

OT - an eye for an eye

NT - how many times should I forgive ,seven? No, 70 x 7

My kind of woman.
And as the saying goes: Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.

Perhaps we should leave the Bible out of it altogether!

I too would like to see all of those "peace loving" Muslims speak out againt the radicals and extremists.

I agree with Gilly, the counter attack has to be from within, that means muslims need to report & be aware of the enemy within..

The ultimate goal of I.S. is the Caliphate way...

I do think we will be a muslim country within the next generation or two.

the infiltration unfortunately is so great, we cannot conrol the borders or the 'homegrown' radicalised british extremists ...

I do not think this is scaremongering, just inevitable.

Petra absolutely!

Anniebach, you know as well as I do, that some bits in the Bible were said in a different way further on in the Bible, but lots of it remain intact and were not changed at all.
At least, I have presumed you know that. But perhaps you dont.

Genuine question. If people loving muslims speak out, will it make much difference?
I would like to think that it would, but I suspect that in a lot of ways it wont.

jing I saw that video too and it's a shame the full version isn't the one that hit the news and went viral on the Internet. I'm sure she learned a lot from that experience.

I take what she said to mean military action can never be the whole solution to the Middle East problems (and elsewhere like Afghanistan and Pakistan) and that at some point the views of those involved will have to be heard and discussed. If this doesn't happen, the cycle of conflict will continue, along with poverty, disease, etc. Much easier said than done and IS would never be part of such a discussion, so it would be anyone else.

I don't believe that our beliefs should be imposed on anyone, but I do believe in religious freedom as long as no one is harmed and that doesn't just mean physically harmed. So for me that might mean getting agreement not to treat females as second class citizens (e.g. women can't drive in Saudi Arabia). Education as a basic right for all children up to a certain age. I can't explain this well and sound ridiculous, perhaps someone else can. Who could facilitate ideological discussions is beyond me too.

Well, I hope she wasn't cowed by it.

So, she is a bit naive. [shrug]