Mey that is just the point. The F-word is a step too far for me and in our family it is not used and definitely not written. I got upset when it was said that those who object to swearing are stuffed shirts.
If they didn't mean to offend anyone then why swear at all?
wow this thread has gone 9 pages, well done celeb, I think that swearing or cursing is a personal thing, to some people it is just how they speak and usually dont mean to offend anyone and others do find it very offensive, me I just take you as I find you and would not think any less of you if you did curse. There is one word though that I do truly hate and absolutley do get offeneded by is the C word, I dont know why I just think its a step too far, but then thats just my opinion.
MargaretXI very rarely use a 4-letter word - perhaps when I'm driving on my own or when I stub my toe on my way to the loo in the small hours - but NEVER in the presence of my GC, even the adult one. The point is that you can't assume that J04 will use the same vocabulary with her GC as she used in the heat of the moment on these forums. I am sure she doesn't.
MargaretX - no one in life will have a better start than my grandchildren are getting, or better values given to them. Their parents, their church, and, yes, even their granny, see to that.
Ask them about what Oxfam is trying to do in the world. You would be amazed at their knowledge.
There are some sensible posts on here. No-one is advocating swearing, and everyone thinks that children should not be sworn at, or allowed to swear at others, but there are descriptions of how word meanings change over the years, and of how not to react with shock horror (it just encourages the rebels to shock again!) but to point out the difference between dropping a hammer on a toe and letting out something regrettable, and verbally abusing someone with swearwords and curses.
You should read the whole thread Margaret. There's a responsible, well-argued discussion in here, some sense of taking the heat out of emotive, shocking words, and some philosophsing about how we all react in different ways to swear words. An interesting thread.
As we are all ( or nearly all) grandmothers, I am appalled that such bad language is written on a Forum for grandparents. I'm glad my grandchildren don't have a grandmother who uses 4-letter swear words. I want them to have good start in life with values that make life easier for them. If this makes me into a stuffed shirt as jingle called it then I will have to be one in her estimation.
I'have to admit that I have not read all the 8 pages of posts about swearing. Why should I want to do that?
If you want the Italian version "va fan culo" (try lip reading when the Italians are playing football) culo roughly meaning arse. Isn't Gransnet nice and educational for us old ladies?
Well I have just come back from Zumba gold and as we were clenching our biceps in time to the music I couldn't help thinking of the 'Bras d'honneur'. That image is going to stay with me for a while I think.
What I love about the French, is that even in the heat of the moment, swearing like a trooper in a traffic "incident" - their grammar is impeccable!!!!