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To expect people to behave 'properly' at the theatre?

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kittylester Mon 10-Feb-14 10:12:01

Every six months or so, my three daughters and I have lunch together and go to a musical. Yesterday our first such trip for a while because of a rash of babies, we went to see a matinee performance of 'Dirty Dancing', not particularly my choice but they were all really keen.

We had really good seats, in the middle of the stalls, about 10 rows back. The audience was largely made up of women. The whole thing was ruined, for us, by people who had obviously been lots of times before and persisted in talking loudly to each other, joining in with the songs at the top of their voices, swaying with their arms in the air, standing up and whooping loudly.

After DD2 had shushed a group of four women in front of us and been ignored, DD3 tapped one on the shoulder and very politely asked her to be a little quieter where upon the woman turned and told her to 'shut the f* up'.

The worst offenders for swaying were sitting next to me and, when I asked to get out during the interval, complained that I was an f***ing nuisance as she had to pick her [loads of] shopping bags off the floor.

All this behaviour seemed to be exacerbated by the fact that people were allowed to take drinks to their seats and lots of women were coming back with plastic half pint 'glasses' full of wine.

It was impossible to complain to an usher as we were in the middle of a row.

Sorry for the long complicated post but I am really cross angry

Marelli Mon 10-Feb-14 14:10:48

Wish I'd thought of that now, Aka.

squaredog Mon 10-Feb-14 14:09:11

Soutra, you've beaten me to it.

Sweet wrappers!

I can almost give myself a coronary, I become so incensed.

Do you think we re just miserabe old farts?

kittylester Mon 10-Feb-14 14:06:11

Nonnie DH and I saw West Side Story in London and thoroughly enjoyed it (I doubt I'd ever not enjoy WSS). It was after that performance that I bought tickets for us all to see it in Brum.

We go to the theatre in Birmingham quite often as it is so much easier (and cheaper) than battling with the crowds in London. We can get there in less than an hour by car, enjoy a meal before and come home after. The last thing we saw was Martin Shaw blush in 12 Angry Men at the Rep.

DH is a Jazz fiend so we end up going to London for concerts and usually stay over and go to a show 'for me'. grin One we saw was the 'Million Dollar Contract' which had people dancing in the aisles but the atmosphere was not rowdy or aggressive.

I feel I must point out that the DDs and I enjoy a good time, and in fact had a drink with our lunch shock but our enjoyment was ruined by a few thoughtless people.

I have just remembered that during the interval of 'One Man, Two Governors', the man in front of me turned and said 'I'm glad you are enjoying it so much' I realised that I had been laugh an awful lot. blush

Nonnie Mon 10-Feb-14 13:40:38

That sounds horrid Kitty presumably it was not in Brum? I think you will find WSS much better. We often go to the Brum Hippo and Symphony Hall, also occasionally the NIA and the only time we have ever experienced anything like this was just once at the NIA and several other people felt as we did.

We are so fortunate that our local theatre and cinema only seem to attract polite people, whether matinee or evening.

Charleygirl Mon 10-Feb-14 13:37:17

I used to visit London theatres regularly and it was always an evening show. Maybe the riff raff are more likely to see a matinee, I do not know.

I have seen Dirty Dancing but everybody was quiet and no mobile phones rang.

People sang at the end of "We Will Rock You" but not until invited.

I have never been to a rowdy theatre evening performance, thank goodness. One pays enough money without having the time spoiled.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 10-Feb-14 13:24:03

I think there is a certain age group of women who behave like this. We have been to see a couple of shows with a certain young actor in them who has a huge fan base, mostly amongst younger women (and a surprising number of grannies!) Everyone has behaved respectfully throughout the show, and all emotion has been saved up for the finale, when, of course, all hell lets loose. grin

I think you need to pick your shows carefully. Shame, but there it is.

Aka Mon 10-Feb-14 13:15:25

Perhaps this is the place to name and shame theatres that don't police the audience. They are happy enough to take our money and so should at least try to ensure we can enjoy whatever it is we came to see.

That HT was well out of order. I'd have written to the Chair of Governors Marelli or even had a letter in the local newspaper.

Charleygirl Mon 10-Feb-14 12:59:58

I went to my local cinema many years ago with a friend. I do not tolerate fools gladly so had a few choice words to say to the young group behind us, who were eating popcorn noisily and also giving a translation of the film to one of their friends.

Again, there was nobody that I could see "policing" the place. Never again.

whenim64 Mon 10-Feb-14 12:52:46

Getting into your personal space and being rude are never part of audience participation kitty. One thing such shows needs is oversight by theatre staff to ensure it doesn't get out of hand. I won't go in the upper circle to shows like that as the whole structure can be felt bouncing when everyone is up on their feet, but in the stalls is where all the noisy participants are busy heckling and singing. Good fun, though!

vegasmags Mon 10-Feb-14 12:48:15

I went recently to see Jude Law in Henry V at a London theatre, and I was really hacked off by the behaviour of some of the 'patrons'. There was talking, loud eating of sweets, checking and texting of phones and to cap it all, the young woman sitting next to me was obviously bored, yawning loudly and then proceeded to tip out her handbag onto her lap for a good old sort out of the contents.

Soutra Mon 10-Feb-14 12:40:22

I totally agree that YANBU - one of my pet hates is the fact that some theatre goers have become more like modern cinema audiences i.e. are patently incapable of going 2 hours without nourishment - noisy wrappings on sweets, crisps (!) drinks etc.Oh and checking thier bl**dy phones too! (and that is not just youngsters!)
It is true that some shows lend themselves more to audience participation - I too was on my feet at Mamma Mia but I much prefer the civilised behaviour one can hope to find at the likes of the RSC or National. Could you imagine audience audience participation at "Coriolanus" at the Donmar or Simon Russell Beale's "Lear"? grin

grannyactivist Mon 10-Feb-14 12:38:21

when's right, there are some films that encourage audience participation, but our cinema always advertises them in that vein. So for instance when 'Mamma Mia' was on there were two screenings that were advertised as ones where the audience could join in. My friend went to both and said that people were dancing in the aisles and by their seats, singing along etc. I went with the WM so we went to one of the more sedate showings. smile
Marelli, the headmaster was out of order.

KatyK Mon 10-Feb-14 12:37:25

Been to lots of shows here in Brum over the years and never had a problem.
My DD informs me that our local cinema now serve alcoholic drinks and bring them to your seat as required!

Skylark Mon 10-Feb-14 12:35:46

KittyLester, I am sorry your outing was ruined. I think this warrants a strongly worded letter to the management of the theatre. My mother instilled in us the absolute non-negotiable behaviour expected in theatres and at concerts when I was a small child in the 60s - we shouldn't even cough in a concert - and this I passed onto my three children. I remember taking DS1 to a concert in Notre Dame, Paris, when he was 6, and the people in the row behind talking all the way through. How rude, and what a terrible example to set to DS, who behaved beautifully.

Marelli Mon 10-Feb-14 12:23:44

My friend and I went to a production of Bleak House at our local theatre. It was spoiled by continual sniggering and guffawing from teenage school pupils seated a couple of rows behind us. At the interval, I sussed out who the teachers were that were accompanying them and complained about the behaviour (the teachers were seated at the very front of the theatre for some reason), and they said they'd deal with it. They didn't, however, so the next day I wrote to the headmaster (I was so angry angry - not like me, really)! I explained how our evening, along with others' in the theatre, had been spoiled and expected an apology. I got a proper dressing-down from the headmaster, saying that the pupils were there as part of their term's literature/drama classes and that I should have been more tolerant of them hmm. He suggested I attended the performance of a Dickens' play that the pupils were going to be doing later in the year (didn't offer free tickets)! Perhaps I should have gone - and hee-hawed all the way through it, and thrown sweets etc to my pals across the rows, as they had.....grin!

gillybob Mon 10-Feb-14 12:20:01

I am making myself do lines ! blush

soop Mon 10-Feb-14 12:12:03

kitty I'm fuming on your behalf. angry and sad at the same time.

kittylester Mon 10-Feb-14 12:08:25

The main problem we had when was the talking when they weren't joining in and the swaying into my 'personal' space. And, the rudeness!! shock

whenim64 Mon 10-Feb-14 12:01:31

Participation not articulation.........what an inventive iPad I have!!

whenim64 Mon 10-Feb-14 12:00:29

Audience participation has become a growing phenomenon with shows like Dirty Dancing, Grease, Mama Mia and The Rocky Horror Show but the theatre goers wouldn't sung or heckle in other shows that haven't become cults like these shows have. Rude, disruptive behaviour is never welcome, whether it's an audience articulation show or not, but it is worth reading reviews or finding out what sort of musical you're going to see if you don't like those where the audience joins in.

harrigran Mon 10-Feb-14 11:22:08

If I have bought a ticket to see a show I expect to watch it without another persons rendition of the songs. I absolutely hate it when half the audience stand up and wave their arms in the air, appalling behaviour in a theatre.

Tegan Mon 10-Feb-14 11:15:14

Strange how men just love an excuse to dress up as well, isn't it wink. I've never been to TRHS; think it needs to be on my tick list [it's always a sellout].

whenim64 Mon 10-Feb-14 10:49:29

Better to watch the film, kitty as Dirty Dancing is one if those cult shows that people are used to joining in with. The noisiest one is The Rocky Horror Show. I went twice last year - it's magnificent, but most of the script, singing and ad-libbing comes from the stalls! Fine if you know what to expect, but there were two women sitting near me at one of the shows who just didn't enjoy the racket. I loved it!

gillybob Mon 10-Feb-14 10:46:31

Maybe we are just extremely civilized here in The North grin but I have never some accross anything like this in either the cinema or the theatre either. I know that there are some productions that attract groups of hens and that after downing a few sherbets everyone thinks they sound "just like the original" when infact they sound like a cow farting through a small tooth comb! I think a little bit of singing along is normal for something like Dirty Dancing, but bad behaviour, rudeness and rowdiness? No way. What a shame your afternoon was spoilt. I can't understand anyone paying good money and then talking through the production.

grannyactivist Mon 10-Feb-14 10:44:47

Write to the theatre and ask for a refund. The theatre has a duty to ensure that shows are 'policed' properly to prevent unruly behaviour. If people start to complain and ask for their money back they'll perhaps get their act in order.