Christian Family face possible legal action

I might have misread your post feetlebaum. If so, I apologise.

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What the fuck makes you think I am a "member of the gang?

Yes.

'God loves everyone.' says soontobe.

It has a damn funny way of showing it... But then it's so easy to just say it, isn't it? I remember a TW3 skit many years ago in which someone said 'God. Is. Love' - each word accompanied by a slap across the face...

Who gives you the authority to decide what you can just 'ignore', and still be a member of the gang?

Yes it can be. Loads of it can be ignored.

Gosh yes, God loves everyone.
But the rest of the Bible cant be ignored or sidelined.
I dont think that there is going to be agreement here, so perhaps best left by me at this point.

To be honest, I originally meant my own post, which I think soontobe's sunshine crossed with - but I reckon it would be an excellent sermon that went "The sun is shining. Get out there and enjoy it, everyone, all of you, whatever your religious beliefs or any other idiosyncracies."

It would be a fine sermon. Imagine the congregation leaving the church, all scratching their heads and wondering, 'what the hell?!'

I will be back later. After lunch.

I dunno. Wishing people a spot of sunshine would be a pretty good sermon - and short!

Me too! Pretty poor job!

I hope that is not construed as a sermon!

Oh soontobe you can't see that there isn't hate there. It is not a case of "If you are not for me, you are against me" It is possible to be tolerate both sexual and religious differences, though it has taken a long time for humanity to recognise that possiblity.

There is not hate, but love, but it is for all people, not just those who love God, not just those who follow him, but also for those who don't follow God, or whose love for one another doesn't fit the conventional pattern. If God made and loves the heterosexuals, He also made and loves the homosexual ones.

If He didn't make and love one lot, then He didn't make and love the others, they are interchangable as far as He is concerned. Doesn't it say somewhere that there will be no marrying in heaven, or giving in marriage? So sexuality is completely irrelevant to God and religion, it is purely an earthly thing to continue the species - and "to provide comfort one to the other" It is not a lifestyle choice, it is an inbuilt instinct - that has been shown.

I don't like this case at all - I agree that it was a test case, the order could have been placed in a much better way, without all the confrontation and heartache, and those who placed it were acting in a narrow way themselves.

But placed it was, and the law is that it is illegal to discriminate against anyone for their sexual orientation. If the baker had been cleared of that, others could have discriminated in much more serious ways - hatred, violence - and argued that they had the right. No-one is asking you to join them, just tolerate them.

But we wicked heathens are not in church.

.........and it is Sunday.

I do jingl. I cant see how that is a sermon in the slightest. Not like any I have heard, that is for sure.

My post was to the usual suspect

Whaaat?! [confused?]

You do know sermons are not allowed on GN don't you?

I agree that it was a set-up and a test case and done with malicious intent imo. The judge should have done as jingl suggested.
I am not anti-anyone but I do not understand how the law worked in this unique case.
I thought you could offer goods or items for sale but are not contractually obliged to sell goods or services if you do not wish to.

I didnt realise that posters had hate in their hearts over this. I feel very sad indeed.

I am sorry to non christians, but we cannot throw out the bible. And we didnt make the rules.
And God does exist, no matter the consequences to ourselves. We are stuck too, in life and over cakes!
But we cant do anything either.
If businesses, and their are many many many businesses run by people of faiths, have to close, then so be it.
It wouldnt be because of not loving people, but because of following God.

Jing - well said

I think the whole thing should have been thrown out of court. It was obviously a set up and the judge should have taken that on board and told the complainants to grow up.