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Problems with MIL that need resolving. Please help me understand her view

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ADifferentView Wed 13-Aug-14 00:03:27

Hello. I am posting on Gransnet as a DIL that would like to try and understand how to move forward with my MIL. Also to try and understand her behaviour and whether I am being unreasonable. I would really appreciate some advice from other MIL's.

My DH and I have been together 8 years and have a child. My mother in law pretends to me that she loves and supports me but it has never felt very genuine. Despite this, over the last 2 years I have started to trust her and believed she had grown to love me in some way. Obviously I'll never be one of her own and I know that, but I felt we had a good relationship.

Yesterday my friend and I overheard her making some horrible remarks about me (we had taken my child to visit her at her place of work, and she thought we had left when we were around the corridor after using the bathroom). We overheard MIL speaking to her sister (my Aunty in law), she said that I wasted her son's money (I don't, and one third of our household income is from my earnings), and that I should be more than happy with my lot as I've done so well in marrying her son compared to the rest of my family who have nothing.

Just 5 minutes beforehand MIL had told me she loved me. I feel so hurt and depressed by all this. It's as though we've regressed back to 6 years ago when I first became pregnant and had DC. MIL found it very difficult when DC was born (extremely emotional, a lot of crying), and accused me of keeping her from DC because I wouldn't let her give DC first bath, let her look after DC alone and stay the night at her house at a couple of weeks old etc. I felt at the time very threatened by how much MIL thought of herself as 'mother' to my child. She even referred to my DC as her 'firstborn'.

DH is very supportive of me however it's difficult for him to act on this. The last time he did catch MIL speaking in this way about me, he confronted her but she burst into tears and sulked for one month whilst we had numerous phone calls from my sisters in law pleading for DH to apologise to MIL and stop her feeling so sad. In the end we gave in.

If DH or I confront MIL with this latest event it's 100% likely she will again sulk and make herself the victim. I obviously feel like I want I give her a very wide berth for a while but there's only so long I can avoid her before she notices and starts to send messages through my SIL and FIL that I haven't called or visited.

To put all of this into context, I generally feel my MIL has no respect for me as a mother and ignores my wishes when caring for my child. For example, co sleeping, giving her inappropriate gifts like make up, far too many sweets and junk food.

She also created problems leading up to and on our wedding day, she was against me buying a wedding dress and insisted I hire one, she bought herself a white dress to wear, complained to everyone that she was losing her son (DH and I had been living together for 6 years and with a child for 3 years already). She didn't compliment me or speak to me on my wedding day although I invited her to spend some time with me getting ready. She just got quite drunk instead. She asked on 3 occasions to stay in our hotel room with us on our wedding night to look after our child (our daughter would be asleep and never wakes in the night, she knows this).

I feel drained after seeing my MIL because I often have to keep my defences up and be vigilant with my child. My MIL always wants to take her away from me and into another room, and once told her that Mummy doesn't let her see her enough. Am I being reasonable to keep my distance and only see them every month or couple of months? We live fairly close by and they are used to seeing us about once a fortnight or sometimes once a week.

Crafting Wed 13-Aug-14 20:21:25

Adifferentview I have 2 DIL and they are both really good mums who love and care for our GC exceptionally well. They are also good wives to my sons. I care for them a great deal and care about their feelings and their happiness and am thankful for them loving my sons and GC but I don't love them like I do my own sons. I don't go round telling people how much I love them and am a bit surprised that you MIL puts so much effort into doing so. Actions as they say speak louder than words and I don't see much of the loving feeling in what she is doing to you. When you only have sons it is natural for a little jealousy to sneak in sometimes but I love my sons very much and their happiness is very important to me so I am grateful to my DILs for making them happy.

Tegan Wed 13-Aug-14 20:32:03

I do feel something that I would call 'love' for my [sort of] DIL, but I know that that love would disappear instantly if she did anything to hurt my son, and therein lies the difference.

thatbags Wed 13-Aug-14 20:45:27

If jealousy of the wives of one's sons is "only natural", I'm really glad I have only daughters.

Mind you, I don't believe it is "only natural" at all. Or, at worst, if it is, then women should be aware of its destructiveness and take pains to deal with it without any fuss and without their daughters-in-law ever noticing. As both my mothers-in-law did.

You do not have to put up with any possessive jealousy shit, adv. [Head up and growl emoticons]

Elegran Wed 13-Aug-14 20:47:43

What does she mean by love, I wonder? Some people cannot love without being possessive, or being controlling, or wanting to barter their "love" for attention.

Elegran Wed 13-Aug-14 20:52:28

It is not automatic to be jealous of a DiL. Mine was not jealous of me, my grandmother was not jealous of my mother, I am not jealous of my son's wife. A woman who exhibits such jealousy is insecure. She believes, in her heart of hearts, that she is not lovable enough, that her son only has a limited supply of love to give and that if he gives it to his wife there will be none left for her.

Grannyknot Wed 13-Aug-14 22:26:54

I am not at all jealous of my DIL - I am just really pleased that my son found a partner. And a little relieved grin.

ADifferentView Wed 13-Aug-14 23:44:10

Someone asked earlier if MIL has other GC. She does not, also she is not single but married for 40 years - unhappily. Her husband was verbally abusive and controlling and still is sometimes. My DH is not her only son and she also has a daughter.

My DH is the only one with a partner though so everything she is experiencing with one of her children 'flying the nest' is a first.

2 of her children are still at home with her in their twenties.

I too don't think it's natural for a MIL to be jealous. My paternal grandmother was never jealous of my mother and really did treat her very well.

I think I would be happy to see a son of mine in a happy and healthy relationship. In regards to mine and dh's relationship, there is no history of us hurting each other. We have never separated or had any big problems. Nothing that would give my MIL reason to resent me.

Faye Wed 13-Aug-14 23:52:45

I can't see how it is normal to be jealous of your DIL. I love my DIL and am very grateful she and my son have a happy marriage and are good parents.

ADV your are not unreasonable but you do need to stick up for yourself. I would have started at the wedding: NO it's not okay to wear white to my wedding and NO it's not okay for you to spend the night with us on our wedding night. NO it's not my husband's money, it's our money. Don't let her get away with this behaviour otherwise it just goes on and on. I know, I had a very spiteful MIL, my husband even warned me early in our marriage to be wary of her.

Eloethan Thu 14-Aug-14 00:41:55

I agree that her saying she loves you sounds, in the circumstances you describe, manipulative. It presents her as a "nice person" and puts more pressure on you to overlook her nasty behaviour.

You sound like a very caring person who understands that this woman has problems and who tries to make allowances for that. However, after overhearing such spiteful comments, I would do as others have suggested - maintain a polite relationship but try to limit how much - and for how long - you see her.

Rowantree Tue 02-Sep-14 17:21:53

I can't add much to the good advice and support here, but it does make me feel rather humble about my own MIL problems! I can't begin to imagine how I'd cope with what you've had to deal with over the years. But I'm not sure that 'biting your tongue' helps you feel better- it doesn't help much for me! Your MIL is a dreadful bully but almost certainly has serious mental health problems which she probably can't help, but you can't be expected to second-guess them or even respond to them. Your duty is to yourself and your own little family. I wonder if you'd find it helpful to have some counselling for a few weeks in order to find ways of dealing with her? I went to Relate a couple of years ago for support when a close friendship of mine went pear-shaped and I couldn't cope. Relate help with any relationship problems, not just marital. Good luck and please keep us posted on how things are for you. flowers