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To think the school has not dealt with this well?

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GrannyTwice Fri 06-Mar-15 17:30:12

Hello- my dgd (11) came home from World Book Day very upset. The boy she sits next to had tied her up and put a mask on her. She said she asked him to stop but he said it was just a joke and anyway she was enjoying it really. When he finally untied her she told the teacher but the teacher just said to count herself lucky that he hadn't dressed up as a series killer or James Bond because then she might have had something to really tell tales about. The teacher then said that there was also a useful lesson in post- feminist irony to be learnt here and that next week the class would explore the concept of irony through Jane Austens novels. When my dd rang up to complain about the tying up, the teacher explained about how it was all jolly good fun and that WBD had proved its worth yet again as the class were now to be introduced to the work of Jane Austen . The teacher said last year WBD had also been useful as someone dressed up as a character from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and that had led onto the class reading the James Bond novels. AIBU to think that the school has not dealt with this well?

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 06-Mar-15 17:35:00


You could be overthinking this GT.

#letitgo wine

GrannyTwice Fri 06-Mar-15 17:50:33


Mishap Fri 06-Mar-15 17:51:31

Very good!

GrannyTwice Fri 06-Mar-15 17:51:32

Better than underthinking any day!

Anya Fri 06-Mar-15 17:53:44

I'd leave it. Just have a word with GD about shouting STOP and meaning it.

Soutra Fri 06-Mar-15 17:57:00

Apart from our thinking this is outrageous behaviour my mind is struggling to see the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang /James Bond link and "post-feminist irony " for 11 year-olds linking being tied up with Jane Austen. Could have phrased that better though!
When somebody has a spare half hour, perhaps they could explain it to me?

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 06-Mar-15 17:57:04

Grannytwice, are you sure you haven't read the book?

GrannyTwice Fri 06-Mar-15 17:58:44

Giosh Anya - you are so right! It's up to my dgd isn't it. And there was my silly dd thinking that maybe the boy shouldn't have been allowed to do it in the first place. Makes you think doesn't it about what the convicted Indian rapost said on the BBC programme the other night about women asking fit it. WIBU to suggest that my dgd be homeschooled so that the boy in her class would have temptation removed from him?

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 06-Mar-15 17:59:19

I imagined he must have worn the mask himself! Did he really put it on her? confused Why would he have done that?

merlotgran Fri 06-Mar-15 17:59:25

Ha Ha grin

GrannyTwice Fri 06-Mar-15 18:00:43

Oh Soutra! Who wrote JB and CCBB? And what is JA most famous for if not irony?

GrannyTwice Fri 06-Mar-15 18:02:28

I think it was so she couldn't identify him otherwise he might have had to kill her- at least that's what his mum has put on her fb page. So really, as the mum said, he was doing my dgd a favour

loopylou Fri 06-Mar-15 18:03:19

I'm really concerned that the fact that an 11 year old girl is very upset yet the teacher dismisses it as 'jolly good fun' and is using the child's distress as a means of demonstrating 'post-feminist irony' (whatever that's supposed to mean) and the works of Jane Austen. I'd have been hopping mad.
What author would she have used if ABH had been involved, 'Silence of the Lambs'?
Certainly not being unreasonable GrannyTwice when it comes to a very upset child.

loopylou Fri 06-Mar-15 18:04:57

And as for the boy's mother's FB comment .......

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 06-Mar-15 18:05:11

Loopylou - it's not real.

annsixty Fri 06-Mar-15 18:11:36

What do 11yr olds know about post -feminist irony? I was still on Enid Blyton grin

JessM Fri 06-Mar-15 18:11:48

They used to call it "learning by doing" in my day - I'm sure all those involved had a valuable learning experience. Apart from, possibly, the teaching staff.
But are you sure you're not getting a bit addled Grannytwice (as we do at our advance age) and thinking about Michael Bond, author of the story recently made into a hugely successful film?

loopylou Fri 06-Mar-15 18:15:25

A boy at my primary school thought it was 'a joke' to tie a little girl to a tree in the playground . He ran off back into class and the little girl nearly strangled herself trying to get free, she told the teacher who said she was a tattletale.
She was my best friend and, ending up with serious MH problems for the rest of her life, she committed suicide aged 27.
Until the inquest I didn't know she'd had a horrible young childhood with physical and sexual abuse from her father and other family males-she told the police she was scared what would happen next.
Ok the boy wasn't to know but the teacher dismissed it as 'one of those things'.
It haunts me when teachers are dismissive of a child's complaints, in fact it makes me furious jinglbellsfrocks

GrannyTwice Fri 06-Mar-15 18:15:53

Oh dear oh dear - I assumed everyone had read the thread about the 11 year old boy dressing up as Christian Grey? This was my clearly pathetic ironic attempt to show if from another perspective. Clear fail <slinks off for several wine

GrannyTwice Fri 06-Mar-15 18:18:51

Before I raise the glass to my lips, I want to say that I don't think any of this is a laughing matter which is clear from my posts on the original thread- I just wanted to turn it round for another perspective.

appygran Fri 06-Mar-15 18:25:06

No you are not being unreasonable grannytwice the teacher did not handle this situation very well at all. This is not just about feminism but also bullying and respecting other peoples rights to say no. If the situation had been reversed and it was a girl tieing up a boy and putting a mask on him against his will it would be equally wrong. Just flabbergasted I thought we had moved way beyond this.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 06-Mar-15 18:26:32

grin Serves you right GT. (This is Gransnet - remember?) grin

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 06-Mar-15 18:27:28

Shall I hand you a gun? grin

Soutra Fri 06-Mar-15 18:32:05

I get Ian Fleming, and I get Jane Austen and irony, but I don't see irony in the teachers response, maybe hypocrisy.
Just me.