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Junk food warnings-"not for young children"

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trisher Mon 04-May-15 09:57:12

I recently watched a woman open a packet of salt and vinegar Monster Munch and hand it to a child in a buggy who must have been 18 months to 2 years old, who was obviously used to this and started eating. Apart from the damage to her developing taste buds the amount of salt and fat she consumed must have been health threatening. When I buy toys some have a warniing "Not suitable for children under the age of 3". Why can't the same warning be put on junk foods and fizzy drinks? Children might then eat better as they grow up.

soontobe Thu 07-May-15 07:00:51

As it happens I have been reading this morning about NHS charging for mole removals, which is what happened to me.
Charging for things related to diet may help some aspects of peoples' health?

thatbags Thu 07-May-15 07:01:21

I'm not sure I understand your question, soon? Do you mean what do I think of NHS advice about food? If so, then my answer is that I have no problem with NHS advice, but I insist that it is my choice, not someone else's, whether I follow that advice for myself and my children.

thatbags Thu 07-May-15 07:01:48

Have you been told that moles are caused by bad diet?

thatbags Thu 07-May-15 07:04:15

Just did a quick Google and I saw that under the NHS you will be "usually" be charged for "cosmetic" nmole removal, i.e. non-essential mole removal, removal of moles that are not considered a health hazard. That does not strike me as unsreasonable.

soontobe Thu 07-May-15 07:04:20

No on both counts.
Sorry, I am not making myself clear at all.
I am talking about the NHS starting to bring in charges in general.

thatbags Thu 07-May-15 07:04:43

Sorry for the typos.

soontobe Thu 07-May-15 07:06:03

Trouble is with mole removal, GPS dont know if they may be cancerous or not.

soontobe Thu 07-May-15 07:07:29

I am going away from the op. I must stop.

absent Thu 07-May-15 07:54:16

I live in a country where skin cancer is a major issue because we are directly under a large hole in the ozone layer and the sun, when it shines on us, is very fierce. Checking skin for changes and mole maps are quite common and it seems that it is quite clear when a maverick mole is a sign of skin cancer. (We do pay for GP appointments but not for essential surgery.) Just disliking a big hairy mole on your chin doesn't get free treatment.

soontobe Thu 07-May-15 08:01:13

Mine was actually a wart, and the GPs disagreed with each other.
As they did when DH had moles.
Our GP surgery literally hasnt got a clue.

absent Thu 07-May-15 08:04:42

An oncologist would know.

rosequartz Thu 07-May-15 09:07:23

I would term 'junk food' as something with a lot of calories compared to the nutritional value. 'Clout' - they are appealing to children who have a great deal of 'pester power' - although some parents do, of course, remain immune.

rosequartz Thu 07-May-15 09:11:17

I have heard that if you put a piece of raw meat on a wart (organic of course, not a 'junk' beefburger wink) then bury the meat in the garden the wart will go as the meat rots.
grin

Elegran Thu 07-May-15 09:51:14

Or rub the wart on a toad - unless you go for the opposite belief, that handling toads gives you warts.

I think if they are ordinary warts they vanish of their own accord in their own good time.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 07-May-15 10:06:10

I don't think you can start charging for treatment caused by people's own weaknesses. The obese are often the ones who could least afford to pay. It woulkd be wrong to penalise people for human weakness. We must keep a bit of compassion in the NHS.

Absent I haven't got a clue what you are going on about re overweight posters on here. Can you shut up about it refrain please as I have just weighed myself. Bloody holidays and cake! hmm

soontobe Thu 07-May-15 10:24:15

I had to have the wart removed as second doctor thought it should be removed right away, whereas first doctor together with a locum, said that if I wanted it removed, I would have to pay as it is now not done on the NHS.

Saw the specialist less than 2 weeks later. She doesnt think it is localised skin cancer. Said did I want it frozen off, or burnt off and sent to lab for diagnosis.
I asked her which would she do. She said, have it burnt off, so the lab will definitely say one way or anopther. I am awaiting her letter.

It definitely got me thinking about moles and warts being left. Who is to know if they may be skin cancer if 3 doctors and a consultant cannot say for sure?

Which brings me to the paying for treatment bit, which I was reading about this morning.
People getting into health problems when young, can in no way be guaranteed that health services are going to be all free in this country in a few years time.

petra Thu 07-May-15 12:03:17

Good job we didn't have to pay back in the 50s when I had them all around my midriff. Not a pretty sight.

Nelliemoser Thu 07-May-15 12:32:06

I think most clued up Gps should have a reasonable idea if a mole looks dodgy, and enough knowledge to know when to refer on for a specialist opinion.
My DS had one on his back removed and biopsied a year or so ago as the GP was concerned. It was fortunately benign and it helps that he lives near a hospital that is a centre of excellence for Dermatology.

soontobe Thu 07-May-15 12:53:38

Which means your GP got it wrong too.
Glad your DS is ok though.

I dont know who is in charge of threads, but if someone wants me to stop talking about this subject I will, as it doesnt have all that much to do with the original post.

janeainsworth Thu 07-May-15 22:17:56

I've been offline for a couple of days but just want to post this link for all those who worry about their salt intake - Zoe Harcombe on why it isn't a big deal and how the guidelines have apparently been plucked out of thin air.
www.zoeharcombe.com/2013/03/salt-awareness-week-10-things-to-be-aware-of/

Ana Thu 07-May-15 22:29:41

Thank you jane, and that reminds me that Alistair Darling admitted that the recommended number of units of alcohol per week was plucked out of the air and probably erred on the low side just to be safe!

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 07-May-15 22:32:51

My God! Is that stupid woman hellbent on killing us all - one way or another?!

Irresponsible to put that article up IMO.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 07-May-15 22:57:30

look. She's got a Cambridge degree - in maths and economics Oh, and a little MPhil in public nutrition. Keep going Zoe. You might become a real scientist someday. Might. hmm

janeainsworth Thu 07-May-15 23:26:41

jingl if you look at Zoe Harcombe's website, you'll see that she recommends a low carb diet that's high in vegetables, and cooking proper food from scratch. She also speaks out against food manufacturers who fill their processed foods with too much added sugar and so on.
I'm sorry you're so scathing about her educational attainments. I would have thought she'd be well qualified to critique and comment on research papers.

Perhaps you'd like to share your own qualifications with us, and then we can decide whether your posts are responsible or not.

soontobe Fri 08-May-15 03:05:44

At first glance, I would say that Zoe is talking a lot of sense.