Hijab

wow, THAT was an over reaction- you should calm down dear...take your own medicine so to speak.

Who are you to decide what rubbish is? Just ignore facts about a small but far too significant % of the British people (and mine, and all over Europe and USA too, yes I know)- if you wish- but don't call it rubbish because you choose not to look at the world as it is.

I truly hate to say this, but this is waht happened in 1930s Germany- people didn't want to see, didn't want to face what was happening. The rise of the far right all over Europe and the USA has to be faced- somehow- ignoring it won't make it go away- and could make ti grow and grow.

^No, DJ, repeating their rubbish only flatters them and disseminates their lies. It does not make it OK to bring their cr*p to a wider audience , adding "oh how dreadful is this" . There is a reason I don't read the gutter press or "follow" certain people/groups on Twitter.*I do not want to listen to/read their tripe*
End of.
(So please don't quote them at me, not without a health warning)^

I don't see how this can be construed as an "attack". OK my last sentence, is presumably what you object to. but that was not directed at any one person, just people in general.

I totally fail to see where you are coming from here, and if another poster wishes to draw attention to vitriol in the media, I would prefer, as I said, not to hear it second or third hand, as I said " repeating their rubbish".
Now any chance you could calm down and stop over reacting ?

I'm with you on women wearing the hijab, mariann. I don't like to see it, either, but I assume a lot of them wear it because they like it. Are there any hijab wearers on GN who can enlighten us?

I know I am in the minority but I don't like it that women wear the Hijab.
Plenty of modern moslems don't cover their hair. It is not only usage it is a political statement. That is why teachers are not allowed to wear it in some European countries.
They then take it off and don't fall to pieces without it.

I didn't care for Nadiya's posturing either but I wouldn't insult her on social media. There must be an evil undercurrent in the people watching that baking programme.
Can't you Gnetters who are always at each other calm down or find something else to do?
GN used to be so cosy.

As I said, I'm just an old cynic (but that doesn't make me racist).

Rubbish, Alea. You attacked me for no reason at 00.21.51

they didn't make it up though- LibertyGB and BritainFirst provided all the bile and vitriol, not the BBC.

Truly proud to read all the massively positive and supportive messages all over FB and other medias- as said yesterday, shows that Britain is not racist overall - but only some. The above mentionned are vile, and vitirolic.

The above in response to a couple of posts by granjura btw

Perhaps the BBC should be referred to as a 'gutter television channel' due to the amount of vitriol and bile it managed to source for its recent programme on race relations.

shame oh shame on the Daily Mail and the Sun - the gutter press.

In the interests of fairness and not having a sauce bottle to hand I thought I would take a look at what the DM actually said:

One article was singing Nadiya's praises, mentioning her witty one-liners and captivating smile, the other article by a journalist, herself a Muslim, entitled ^Nadiya's done more for race relations than any posturing politician^- a very positive article.

So best not to jump to conclusions, is it, about the so-called 'gutter press'.
We are constantly being told on here, don't comment unless you read it first.
However, I would never dream of telling people what they should or shouldn't read or what comments to make. When I once made a very wry and tongue-in-cheek post (a parody) to that effect I was 'jumped on' very hard.

Now, off to find a sauce bottle.

There is a good article in the DM by Yasmin Alibhai Brown on the positive face of Muslims that Nadiya's win shows.

wilmaknicks

I don't recall boys in pixie-hoods, though - we went the full veil route - the Balaclava helmet!

Pixie-hoods, Liberty bodices, Fairy Cycles, Nippies, Clippies... nothing lasts!

Yes!

Does anyone else remember pixie hoods? Boys, girls and women wore them when I was a child. You folded a long scarf, stitched a few inches down one side and immediately had an all-in-one hood and scarf. Very warm.

What the??? Well that was quick work. Posted my message, and lo and behold, there you were again. ??Time, methinks to get up and have my breakfast

What's happened to your site? I was reading one of the forum posts and went to go to page 2, and could not connect. Has the system crashed?
Hope it comes back soon

DJ, Thursday 21.17, 21.26, 21.44, to name three.
You refer to them yourself in your post of 23.24 as did Ana also yesterday at 21.59

NanKate my Mum and I also covered our heads for church and as a teenager I thought I was the bee's knees in my black lace manila!

thatbags I love the bandana type scarf and have quite a few that I wear at home. As a sweaty Betty they are great when I am blitzing the house! But it's years since I wore a head scarf outside the house, mainly because I have a baw heid (round face) as we say in Scotland and the scarf does me no favours. I have a huge collection of scarves but I don't have the nerve to wear them on my head. I have tried draping them in all sorts of ways, but I just look ridiculous. If it became fashionable again, I might get away with it. As a rule I don't suit hats, so maybe I should give up trying to wear head gear. The HRH look is definitely not me. I live in hope.

Hijab's are having a high fashion moment round here. We have a nearby Jewish community where head covering by the use of wigs is common. Many of the local Muslim youngsters wear the hijab that fits snugly around the face and neck, and balloons at the back. I apologise for the clumsy description which makes the head covering sound unattractive, when it is so far from that and usually very flattering to the wearer.

Fahion designers have come up with something already. I often wear a buff/bandana type head covering in such a way that it covers all my hair. The main reasons are to keep my very fine fly away hair from tickling my face when I'm busy and to keep my ears warm. I've occasionally worn one indoors but I usually find it too warm.

And then there are HRH-type headscarves.

The only difference is we (Her Madge and I) wear head coverings for practical reasons rather than because we think it's modest, or whatever the reasons are for wearing hijab.

Historically people in most cultures wore head coverings much more than is common nowadays so I reckon the fashion will die out among Muslims as well in due course. Not that it bothers me except insofar as it seems like a badge and I'm not really into bagdes.

I do not like niqab or any other kind of facial disguise and it annoys me that the rules for having one's face uncovered that apply to the rest of us are allowed not to apply to Muslim women. No other facial covering is regarded a ordinary clothing. One rule for all is the only fair rule.

No offence taken at all Wilma. Let's have a

It's odd how pieces if info come back into one's mind dug up from the depths of the memory, because in the 1960s I would occasionally accompany my mother to church and we always wore headscarves then.

Well, I've read this thread again from when Granjura mentioned the gutter press, and not a single person has quoted anything at you, so stop being so melodramatic, Alea. As I haven't read them myself I couldn't anyway.

I closed my Twitter and Facebook accounts earlier this year partly because it seemed like they've become platforms for people to say vile things without consequences. It doesn't matter if others respond to argue the point, it's too late. What has been said is out there. Definitely agree we should not give oxygen to this behaviour.

No, DJ, repeating their rubbish only flatters them and disseminates their lies. It does not make it OK to bring their cr*p to a wider audience , adding "oh how dreadful is this" . There is a reason I don't read the gutter press or "follow" certain people/groups on Twitter.*I do not want to listen to/read their tripe*
End of.
(So please don't quote them at me, not without a health warning)

I meant to say that grannyactivist' post reminded me that I was day dreaming the other day about wearing a scarf that covered my hair, maybe a colourful version of a hijab. I was having a bad hair day and it occurred to me how handy being able to cover up your hair would be. It's also a way of disguising a double chin. I'd been watching something on TV and saw an older woman wearing a hijab and my mind was wandering! I can imagine fashion designers will come up with something sooner or later.