Primary literacy ...split digraphs

Sorry muddled you up with someone else.

I am not new. I am 63

Oh dear GS1 has been having such a lovely summer holiday away from all this stuff. I don't think he realises how near next term is.

Oh dear. I have just realised that I did a year of phonetics at Leeds as part of my English course and although we had to do the markings i never knew what they were called.

Also I have heard of degree level stuff going down to sixth form, even to GCSE but at age 7!

Now remember you are new......don't expect a tirade of criticism. Most of us are pretty.friendly.

That made me laugh, annsixty. I don't remember this phrase ever being mentioned when I was at school, seemed to have managed ok without it though. Sometimes when teaching( although I am not, and never have been a teacher). I think too much information just adds to confusion, and detracts from the learning process as a whole.

I stand back now and wait for the tirade coming at me in following posts

Diacritical marking uses symbols to identify the phonemes present in a word

Is a split diagraph ( Mr Kindle wants to add it to my dictionary so he hasn't heard of it) what I used to teach as Magic E? What is wrong with appealing to a 5 /6 year old's imagination?

What ? Bemused here

Here's another one to add to the list..,,my dgc have been using diacritical marking since around P3 / age 7!!

Bluebell, cannot wholly agree re Maths teaching now. Some of it found less than helpful, "chunking" in division for example. However open number lines, learning to do calculations on paper the way you do them in your head by adding the tens, then the units and adding both together and learning number bonds to 10 and 20 all helped me to understand the way numbers work. I was always "hopeless at sums" but was able to teach this sort of thing with confidence and I hope imparted that to those who struggled. Whereas carrying and borrowing and all that stuff we learnt in the fifties, just eluded me. Those who are natural number crunchers may not need this, the dysnumerate amongst us need all the help we can get I believe.

Enlightened

3 degrees and retired but have managed quite well without this knowledge so far. Will now google it and enlighten myself.

The first time I heard it was from my 5 year old gd. You live and learn.

Glad its not just me Bluebell ?

well b..... me I passed my English Lang and English Lit O level and studied A although didnt stay on long enough to take it and had never heard of a split whatsit Amazed I could get through life without it

Has anyone seen the way they teach small ones simple maths nowadays or maybe its changed again but the multiplication and division were so blooming complicated with loops and jumps and such a long convoluted methos twice as difficult as the way we did it

When we reached the last day of term, and GS1 who is autistic was looking forward to 6 weeks of not having to go to school, DD said she had never looked forward to the holidays so much even when she was at school herself. Decided there will be no spelling or grammar practice at home.

Can't even spell it !

Despite at excelling at English 100 years ago, have never ever heard of a digigraph , split or otherwise

Crumbs! Mine will have to go to their other gran because I don't have a clue what split whatsits are.

Interesting talk on "A Point of View' today on Radio 4 with A.L. Kennedy. (Amongst all the other interesting things going on now. She is against his very grammar based approach to language teaching at primary school level, this focus on the mechanics rather than the meaning and feeling. Also made an interesting link to the Referendum and the slogan writers.

Did Dickens, the Brontes or Jane Austen use causal connectors or did they manage to cope without having to make up names for things?

DGD1 said her homework was to write a passage containing causal connectors. I assume she meant because etc.We used to call these types of words conjunctions which covered all joining words

Pleased some of you agree with me. Also, Larrymin, I find the same with reading with my DGD , she keeps sounding out the word she knows well. I thought it was probably to do with the phonetics teaching. I think there is a place for phonetics teaching but look and say has its place too.
Re the emphasis on grammar in other language teaching, most other languages are far more regular than ours so with fewer exceptions to the grammar rules they are easier to understand and absorb.

What's wrong with saying magic e? Why use complicated split thingamebobs? Can anyone recommend a book giving all these new posh names?