To sack the cleaner?

My cleaner,thank goodness, is brilliant at her job. She worked for a cleaning company before setting up on her own. I have never needed to tell her what to do, I will ask of course but big jobs like the conservatory upvc,I pay her to come in as an extra which she is happy to do. When I have visitors she will swop her day to ensure bedrooms are ready for them. We have a very good understanding of each other.

Never heard of on-the-job training, Nanna58?

Did you think ruby's cleaner behaved appropriately?

Don't think Ruby deserves the snotty comments on top of being treated like a dim inferior by her cleaner. Anyone want to apologise?
Training only for dogs? Puhlease?! People are trained for jobs, each cleaning job differs so some training could well be needed.

I shall , thankful that yes, I do seem to be more sensitive than your good self lol

That is exactly what I am trying to do so why say anything else. If I want something done and done with particular tools or in a particular way, as the bill payer, I am entitled to have that done. Sadly some need more training than others and some are impossible to train so then you stop employing them.
I think you are being rather sensitive, I just wonder what your issues are. I hope you sleep well.

Then do not use phrases such as "still attempting to train my new cleaner"

PS I don't often get cross but this was very hurtful.

I am disabled and so is Ruby.
If I was well enough to do my own cleaning you can be absolutely sure that is what I would be doing.
Anyone who is working for someone else needs to know what is required or nobody would get anywhere.
If you are untrained then quite frankly you can literally be of no use whatsoever.
Just because one is not physically able does not mean that one is mentally incapable or should be treated as such. This is what has happened to Ruby and I have great empathy with her as I have suffered in a like manner.
Speaking of manners I was not '"to the manor born" , have never been afraid of hard work and I have never asked anyone to do anything which I have not done myself. That was an incredibly insensitive comment based on little thought or knowledge.

No one in these posts has mentioned working very long hours. It's not the employing of a cleaner I object to , but the attitude of some of them towards the people they are employing, ad if someone who cleans is unable to function without being ' trained'

annehinkley we call it 'comeuppance'

nanna58 if a person works very long hours why clean your own house, why not pay a cleaner/ironer to do it - thus creating a job for someone?

Way to go ajanela, at last, someone else who isn't ' to the manor born' !

I agree Ann. I was a cleaner for a few years when the children were little. I gave up cleaning the house which always looked tidy and clean, it was so demoralising cleaning what's already neat and clean! Loved the house with three sons. Order out of chaos. Job satisfaction guaranteed!

Advice to the cleaner. Leave.

PS one trains dogs, not cleaners .

1st world problems ladies! Just a thought, unless disabled why not clean your house yourself!!

Ruby if you have sent that text what response did you get? I hope it is all done and dusted anyway!

That woman was very disrespectful and does not deserve your consideration so do not have her back again. Do ensure that those photos are properly deleted.
To expect you to keep everything clean and tidy is ridiculous since one employs a cleaner to clean. If you are in the middle of a task it is to be expected that there will be orderly piles awaiting attention, after all Rome wasn't built in a day!
She should be able to follow instructions and once she knows your routine and needs she should not expect to be told the same thing repeatedly.

The problem is often that people expect others to feel just like they do in terms of energy and wellness and lack the empathy to be aware that if you are unwell you often just can not do very much let alone think about doing it or even planning it for someone else. Thinking can be very draining to someone who is unwell. After all, if you were well enough to do it yourself she would not have been employed.
I find that a written list is essential for me so that I can prioritise things on that list or delete from it and add something else as required.

I am still attempting to train my new cleaner in the way I want things done. I was most surprised that I had to fight her to get her to vacuum my hard floors rather than brush them before she washed them and found that I had to insist that since it was my house and I was paying her it was only right that it was done my way and how I wanted it done. It took a lot out of me.
I hope this person has not spoiled the pleasure in all your new things and that you managed to get her to back off in time. I really feel for you! Do let us know how things are currently.

There's not too much stuff sitting around. It's my paperwork, in a neat pile waiting to be gone through before being filed into the new sideboard. Other than that it's some new bits I have bought over the last few months waiting for DS to move out so that I could mix things up a bit. It will be sorted in two shakes of a lamb's tail.

BTW I totally agree with Jalima about teens/young adults. Their own places are immaculate.... until they become parents! This is known as Grandmothers Revenge.

I haven't read all the posts on here, but would just like to comment that both my cleaners (past & present - I don't need two at once!) have said they quite like things to be messy as they can see what they've achieved. But then they were/have become my friends. I know many people wouldn't think this was a good thing but it's worked for me

I use an agency cleaner on a needs basis. About twice a year I do a whole house deep clean and I ask for two cleaners for half the time I expect the job to take if you know what I mean. That way I'm not disturbed for too long by their presence. I've asked for two cleaners for two hours one day next week because I've had decorators in and a refurb of the bathroom. They come, they do as I ask them to do, they leave and I send the money to the company owner. Job done and it's nice to know the whole house is clean and fresh again.

In time I think I will probably need help on a more regular basis and she knows that so is happy to work on this ad hoc basis for now.

Good luck with your search for a new cleaner ruby. She was a very strange person indeed. Nude cleaners sound strange too!

What gender?

There is an ad in my local newsagent for a naked cleaner. £20 an hour.

Normal teens are filthy slobs,it's part of the job description

They suddenly improve when they get their own places!

You did the right thing, taking photos was an intrusion of your privacy.

She's been fired! I sent a text to ask her why she took the photo of the kitchen yesterday but she didn't reply. I then followed it up a while later with another text to say that I wanted her to delete the photo and that I no longer needed her as I had been on to SS and they would help me out from now on. I have had SS round recently and so I will just phone them or find another cleaner privately. She tried to phone then but I ignored it. She sent a text, told me that she had deleted the photo and wished me well. Onwards and upwards.

No, my DS is not a filthy slob, just a normal teen. We just decided that we wanted the summer to ourselves with no one coming in and being bossy like she is. In the meantime, like I said, my DS did do the hoovering and it was kept on top of. Obviously with him not being here now, I need someone to take over from him doing it.

biker lovely to see you back on, you don't seem to have been around much recently.