to want HATE campaigns against foreigners in the popular Press to stop...

Ana - 1000s have shown concern- there is a world out there outside GN - and I am so glad it is having an effect. Those front pages and headlines have been vile, and many out and out racist - and 1000s have noticed - it would be impossible not to unless you were blind in eyes and heart and mind.

' decent newspapers' would that we had some!

However, I acknowledge that to DM-haters it doesn't matter!

It was when you first claimed it was 'several', granjura.

And Lego has said it won't use the DM for any more promotions because of the EU Judges front page, not this one.

Slowly - and so is the fact that it is not 'just one or two' who agree on this thread x

Lego have stopped advertising in the Daily Mail [have just emailed them to thank them].And, I believe that Gary Lineker [sp]has asked Walkers Crisps to stop advertising with them as well [given that they are made in Leicester]. My faith in humanity is slowly being restored.

I so much agree with you Dyffryn, I am absolutely staggered by the misleading headlines & articles that are peddled by some newspapers & so many people accept it as truth or fact & don't bother to question or quiery the truth of it, my dear 90 yr old mum believes every word the Express prints , I have read her the same news from more independent sources,but she is having none of it , multiply that by several millions - very scary

I read with interest this thread, I too dislike the tabloids such as the Sun and Daily Mail. I think they have a duty to report the news and should do in a factual way without a racist or sexual slant. By reporting as they do people think it is ok to dislike immigrants. We are all immigrants somewhere in our past. I argued with my mother for years about things she believe about that were written in the Sun. The Sun has said it so it must be true she thought. These newspapers in my opinion are dangerous as they give a warped view. I would like to see them held accountable for some of their headlines.

Thanks for the reply POGS; I've been out all day but will read it properly tomorrow and then reply to it.

Disparaging and sarcastic remarks don't just come from Guardian readers - they are also directed at the Guardian and its readers.

Or, as DD calls it 'The Daily Moan'

And we all know how the British love a good moan

Is DM = Daily Mail

The reason I ask is because my 'phone has app for the Daily Mail, Daily Mirror and the Telegraph.

But I don't read the DM

Threads do wander, fact of life.Since foreign drivers (mainly lorries) are prosecuted regularly ( far, far more than British nationals) it seems reasonable to highlight this.
What has been going on for a long time (on Gransnet) is the condemnation by a few of anybody who dares to admit they read the DM, and who are then treated as a lower species! That is why some of us get tired of that attitude.
No need for a hard hat Lisa

It would appear to me that this whole thread has gone waaay off the original post. At least I thought it was about the morality/lack/ of printing articles which promote racism, xenophobia, etc.
I seem to think that the DM was just an example, and this was not a crucifixion of the one paper, more a condemning of the attitude to point the finger at foreigners when nationals do the same things.

With this I agree, and I think that, if those of us who believe this is morally wrong, say nothing, we are condoning this behaviour

Maybe i got it wrong (grabs hard hat and wanders off to get a cuppa)

Tegan

POGS why are you defending these publication. Please explain. Here goes.

I do not agree on several occasions with what they print but I do not find everything printed from the front to back cover is racist/xenophobic/homophobic/anti jewish /anti Muslim as some posters do on every occasion possible.

I am accusing those who repeatedly belittle, sneer , make disparaging remarks at any opportunity against people who read the Daily Mail , The Sun any paper THEY assume beneath their choice of reading material because of their belief they are more intelligent.

I have tried to rationalise my point on the thread concerning the Daily Mail article over the printing of the sexual orientation of one of the judges in the recent Article 50 case.

I am not defending the Mail printing the article I asked why the Daily Mail was called homophobic, anti Jewish when the words it printed were the exact words used in many newspapers when reporting on Etherton being promoted to Lord of the Rolls. The Guardian, which in fact was the article printed in the Mail article in question printed the exact same words as the Mail (because it was from their paper). Why was the Guardian not called homophobic, anti Jewish? The only reply I received was I don't understand what 'context' means. Well I perfectly understand what 'context' means and neither paper mentioned his sexuality 'in context' to their articles but the bile toward the Mail was all anybody is interested in showing .

I think the Daily Mail has been doing a brilliant job in raising the issue of deaths caused by mobile phone use by motorists. It has been running a campaign to highlight the dangers of the many deaths on our roads , printing photos of motorists using mobiles whilst driving and one day it did the travesty of saying there is an issue with foreign lorry drivers. It was perfectly correct to make the affiliation in my opinion and I saw no racist intention as some have.

I actually find it by far more irritating the reason behind the Daily Mail campaign to highlight the problem of mobile phone usage when driving and possible subsequent loss of
life is drowned out by calls of it being a 'hate campaign against foreigners'. I look at 'the context' of the article and did not have an issue whereas others do.

Because of those personal views I would be called homophobic, anti Jewish, a racist by some , even for the mere fact I read the Daily Mail.

Granjura left before she could answer the question I posed to her in my last post, what a pity.

By the way, Tegan, whose lies, whose facts? I have heard enough interviews between people of opposing views on an issue to realise that A's lies are B's facts, often both are right, it just depends on what side you are looking from.

I'll quite happily repeat the fact that I read the Daily Mail, or the Daily Express on a regular basis. As far as I'm aware, doing so hasn't made me become a racist or a bigot, and any subliminal messaging has gone straight over my head. I make decisions mostly after a lot of thought and research and in general am happy with what I decide. I do object to being classed as lacking in intelligence because of my choice of newspaper - is that unreasonable?

Tegan some newspapers have had sensationalist headlines just about forever, it sells papers.I don't know about you, but I have much more important things to worry about than a DMheadline.We are not such sensitive little flowers ( especially at our age, are we?)ALL newspapers will carry misinformation, journalists don't always check everything that is printed, who expects Gospel?Some people may read them for the racing results only, for all I know.What IS objectionable on Gransnet is the assumption of the moral high ground, regarding papers and who reads them, and what kind of person that makes you.We could go on with this theme all night, but I cba.

'There are more important things to worry about.' Maybe a lot of the 'more important things to worry about' are a result of the lies/misinformation that these newspapers peddle on a daily basis.

Yes, and at least 'Brexiteers are not the biggest idiots on the planet any more', which is another arrogant statement made on another thread today!

If you read the Guardian, detest the DM (and the Sun, but it doesn't get mentioned as much) and voted to Remain, you're one of the Gransnet Chosen Fews.

When I said I had sympathy for those who read these papers and believe the lies and misinformaton they present as news I was criticised. It isn't the people who read them I am getting at it is the people who actually realise what is going on but turn away or refuse to acknowledge the racism and hatred they are pedalling. It isn't having contempt for anyone but realising that a free press should be accountable and should provide real honest news rather than propaganda that distorts the truth.

There are more important things to worry about.

All I can say , is that if you hate these Headlines, don't read those papers.But don't make a big deal out if it on here, upsetting posters who do read them.

It is amazingly rude on a forum like this to diss posters who choose to read a certain newspaper, so that a chosen few ( who presumably only read The Guardian) can congratulate each other on their 'empathy'.All eagerly agreeing with each other that the plebs are beneath contempt.This IS arrogance, whether you like it or not.
I have no axe to grind, as I don't read any newspapers.

So why do some newspapers make a habit of putting such things on their front page [in colour/capital letters]to the extent that they are constantly having to apologise for them? Does anyone have the statistics with regards which papers do this more often that others?