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to want HATE campaigns against foreigners in the popular Press to stop...

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granjura Wed 02-Nov-16 12:05:37

So many Gneters think that it is not fair to target the readers of certain newspapers - and yet- the front pages of some of those newpapers are full of hate targetting foreigners, day in, day out. Today foreign drivers who phone or text at the wheel. Phoning or texting at the wheel is a menace, and should be stopped - whether it is mum or dad on the school run, white van drivers or lorry drivers, anyone- irrespective of nationality, sex, ethnicity, profession - ALL:

Totally agree with his 'rant' of the sheer hatred and racism in the popular Press at the moment- which is spilling out onto our streets too:

STOP PHONING OR TEXTING AT THE WHEEL - be you Polish, or British, or a dad or mum on the school run, or a Trader, or ... ANYONE - JUST - STOP - IT - please.

Ana Sun 13-Nov-16 17:32:31

That's old news, durhamjen - at least 5 days old. Not like you to be so slow...

durhamjen Sun 13-Nov-16 17:15:39

"The Justice Committee condemns any personal attacks on members of the judiciary. Free debate should not be couched in terms of abuse of individuals who, by virtue of the oath they have taken and the role they discharge, cannot defend themselves publically. It is quite wrong to vilify or attack judges or attempt to intimidate or undermine them. The right of the press to speak freely must be exercised responsibly; it is not a licence to attack judges in a personal manner or seek to undermine the constitutional principle of judicial independence, which is absolute."

suzied Sun 13-Nov-16 17:13:43

I like this new Lego figure

Ana Sun 13-Nov-16 17:06:10

No it's not.

durhamjen Sun 13-Nov-16 17:04:24

I think that's on the wrong thread, roses.

rosesarered Sun 13-Nov-16 16:56:29

There is no doubt though, that over the years Lego has become more aggressive.I Have been buying it for DGS for years (now 12) so know what I'm talking about.
They are not cuddly toy makers.

durhamjen Sun 13-Nov-16 15:50:01

"Nobody is born hating another person because of the colour of their skin.
People learn to hate.
They can be taught to love for love comes more naturally to the human heart."
Nelson Mandela.

If there had been no protests in South Africa, where would it be now? It would still have appartheid.
I know it's still not perfect, but it's had three generations of people being taught to hate, whether black or white.

whitewave Sun 13-Nov-16 15:47:06

Perhaps the Daily Mail has similar guidelines?

whitewave Sun 13-Nov-16 15:41:03

Sorry about the typos- watching tv listening to DH and posting on GN!

whitewave Sun 13-Nov-16 15:39:47

The following is what the company registered as Lega publish and use as guidelines for weopans and conflict in the Lego experience.

" A large number of Lego figures use weapons....... Conflict is prevalent in play of the 4-9year old boy..... Lego recognise this inner drive and need to experiment with their aggressive feelings in order to learn about about aggressive feelings in themselves and others children......Lego sees conflict play as perfectly acceptable and integral fact of childhood development.

Lego recognises/acknowledges a child's well proven ability to tell play from reality...... in order to maintain this balance between play and conflict we have unwritten rules....
Avoid realistic weapons and military equipment ... refrain from frightening/ violent situations when communicating Lego products.

There will be no association with issues that glorify conflict, and unethical or harmful behaviour.

Jalima Sun 13-Nov-16 15:09:47

In a nutshell:
A firm which peddles aggression and hatred to children through its toys is disassociating itself with a newspaper which it claims peddles hatred to adults.

confused

Ana Sun 13-Nov-16 15:03:18

And after all, what has Lego actually done? The promotion had come to an end and there are no plans for any more in the near future. Hardly a big sacrifice, is it? But it makes them look good...

Ana Sun 13-Nov-16 14:41:13

I doubt that children have been inundating Lego with pleas to stop dealing with the Daily Mail! grin

Jalima Sun 13-Nov-16 14:37:52

Lego declined to specify the reason for ending its cooperation with the Daily Mail, but said in an email that it spends “a lot of time listening to what children have to say.

Have they listened to two boys playing with their Lego fighter jets, knights with swords, fighters with vicious looking guns?

Double standards and glass houses come to mind.

Obviously no-one else sees the irony.

Jalima Sun 13-Nov-16 14:26:07

I would say that some headlines (didn't see the one in question) could be construed an incitement to fear, annoyance, anger about benefit scroungers etc, but I have not seen anything on the occasion I have read it which incites people to go out and kill other people.

Which is precisely what Lego is doing by putting those ideas into the minds of children.

Whilst their gender-specific bias aims such Lego as 'Frozen' and 'Friends' at girls.

Really, if one takes a stance against the Daily Mail, one should be taking a close look at the ethics of Lego toys too.

whitewave Sun 13-Nov-16 14:14:32

OK accepting that Lego is a biased hate filled aggressive toy, would you accept that the same is true of the Daily Mail?

Jalima Sun 13-Nov-16 14:10:05

Pretty obvious whitewave

Children! with their subliminal messages of hate, aggression and fear of the unknown foreigner!!

It really is beyond belief that they have such double standards in their quest for profit.

That is not a defence of any publication but I am just trying to look at the whole issue of Lego -v- Daily Mail from an impartial point of view and rationalise their decision.

whitewave Sun 13-Nov-16 13:58:43

jalima so who is Lego targeting?

Jalima Sun 13-Nov-16 13:18:28

From their website:
Beyond irony:

Baddest Bad Guy
Throughout history many enemies have threatened the island of NINJAGO and all who live there. Face your fears by confronting the worst of the worst. Recreate a scene featuring the villain who you think is the baddest of the bad to earn all-new printable door hangers!

Jalima Sun 13-Nov-16 13:16:24

For those who have not seen any Lego lately I meant to post a link featuring some of the figures it offered recently in the DM:

www.lego.com/en-gb/ninjago/characters

and that is just the tip of Lego's warmongering iceberg.

Jalima Sun 13-Nov-16 13:14:02

Is it just me - or does anyone else see the irony in Lego dissasociating itself from the Daily Mail and refusing to co-operate with that publications in any more free offers of Lego?

Lego has stopped its association with the Daily Mail because an online group called Stop Funding Hate has accused DM headlines of fuelling hatred against migrants.

Lego is, of course, entitled to do so BUT this action has been taken by a firm whose image has changed beyond recognition from the red/blue/white/green bricks I remember from my DC's young days.
DH bought those copies of the DM and MOS so that we could obtain the packs of Lego for the DGC (thanks for the offer Ddill btw!) and I remarked to DH how much Lego has changed over the years.
It is now very gender-specific - a no no for many people

Lego nowadays has little figures with aggressive little faces, brandishing guns, swords, travelling in fighter jets, featuring war, repelling invaders - in fact much of LEGO IS FULL OF HATE!

Is it only me who sees the irony in this?
Do Lego not see the connection themselves?

Probably they are more concerned with increasing their profits.

Jalima Sun 13-Nov-16 13:02:42

You are now just spoiling for a silly fight POGS.
granjura I do not think that POGS is spoiling for a silly fight - I think she is expressing her views and being misinterpreted. I do see what point she is making by returning her Lego. And I do see others' points of view regarding the responsibility of the press to present the news without breaking any laws but we cannot go so far as to gag the press in a free society.

I also had some other thoughts about the Lego/Daily Mail but I'll put those in a separate post.

Ceesnan Sun 13-Nov-16 12:33:52

Maybe you didn't durhamjen , at least not in actual words, but Nelliemoser certainly did.

Ana Sun 13-Nov-16 12:22:20

No durhamjen, I would never criticise anyone for reading the Guardian.

I might question their belief that the Guardian is the only newspaper that's worth reading, but that's not the same thing at all.

durhamjen Sun 13-Nov-16 12:18:40

I didn't actually call POGS racist. I said by returning her Lego she was implying that she supported a racist newspaper.
That's actually calling the DM racist.
POGS knows all about semantic games.