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Militarisation of our society

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M0nica Sat 08-Apr-17 13:57:42

What glorifies war are those endless computer games that seem to think that fighting and death are all adolescent and immature men ever think about. Ditto the endless stream of violent films aimed at that age group/mind set.

rosesarered Sat 08-Apr-17 12:58:13

No, we are not in a militarised society at all.Medals are worn at reunions and official days such as Remembrance Services.All those who were called up and served in WW2 recieved different medals ( campaigns) and of course there were medals for outstanding bravery or devotion to duty.Career soldiers are a different thing and do wear their medals with pride ( and why not) for different occasions.
We have had no National Service here for a long long time ( unlike many countries)
And have less 'honouring' of the armed forces than some countries too.

thatbags Sat 08-Apr-17 12:34:01

We have no conscription (of men or women) so, no, we are not a militarised society.

swanny's remark about the mental illnesses caused and exacerbated by war action made me wonder if acknowledgement of that and the debt we owe to the military (even if we'd rather not!) is what is being "-ised" when medals and uniforms are worn, that they are to honour those who fought, those who were injured physically or mentally, and those who died.

Swanny Sat 08-Apr-17 12:11:26

trisher I find your OP 'disturbing'. In our youth the majority of men had been conscripted to fight wars and they had all had similar experiences, so many felt there was no need to talk about it. However, the treatment of those mentally or physically affected by those experiences was abhorrent, hidden or even non-existent.

Today's servicemen and women will wear badges and medals with pride when appropriate, to remember their colleagues and to express solidarity with each other, never to glorify war.

Greyduster Sat 08-Apr-17 11:49:28

If you join a regiment in the Army, you always belong to it - even when you retire. It's a family. True, some people belong more than others; my DH was never "Army barmy", but he still has friends who were in the same regiment and they get together from time to time; about the only time he wears his medals these days is at official reunions and he doesn't go to many of those. My father never wore his medals. I don't think he even looked at them. His attitude was that he didn't join the Army, he was called up, and therefore had no sense of belonging afterward. He was just proud to have done his duty like all the other men. He did, however, treasure his cap badge (which I still have). He said it was the only thing that went right through the war with him and he would have been upset to lose it.

trisher Sat 08-Apr-17 11:09:02

Thanks for the posts I like the idea of comradeship and it has raised another idea for me that when I was growing up all the men had similar experiences and didn't need to identify others.

TerriBull Sat 08-Apr-17 09:05:28

I don't think so, who can say, it's a personal thing to some people if they draw comfort from it then why not, maybe it's carthartic for them. After my mother died and I was sorting out papers etc. I found my father's medals, he didn't talk about his experiences or mark Rememberance Day in any way, he just wanted to move on, but everybody is different. I know my dad was in North Africa for most of the duration of the war and all I know is that he ended up with an enduring hatred of sand as a consequence and would prefer stoney beaches to ones with sand.

Greyduster Sat 08-Apr-17 08:56:08

No it is not a "glorification of war". Former soldiers who have been involved in one are the last people who would glorify war or any sort of conflict. Keeping and wearing of headgear and medals is, for many ex servicemen, a sign of comradeship, love of and pride in their former regiments and remembering those comrades that they lost. They are not worn lightly.

Teetime Sat 08-Apr-17 08:45:38

I like to see medals worn on official occasions and I'm grateful for all that our service personnel have done and continue to do for the safety of us all.

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 08:39:54

I think sadly we live in a time where self glorification is the thing.

PRINTMISS Sat 08-Apr-17 08:09:08

Surely not a glorification of war, so many of them must have served in horrific situations. Perhaps they are just proud of the fact that they served and it does us no harm to respect that. Of course if they are just wearing the clothes as 'uniform' of the day, that is another matter, but we should not judge a book by its' cover.

Luckygirl Sat 08-Apr-17 08:00:45

My Dad sent his medals back and refused to ever talk about what he had done during the war.

However, I have not felt that there is a recent militarisation of our society.

trisher Fri 07-Apr-17 22:40:38

When I was growing up most of the men I knew had served in at least one war and some had served in 2. I never remember any of these men doing anything to draw attention to this. They never wore any form of uniform, never wore their medals even on Remembrance Day and never really spoke about their experiences. Today I see ex-soldiers wearing berets and medals at many events. I wonder if this is a sign of some sort of militarisation and increasing glorification of war, something I know the men I knew as I was growing up would have entirely rejected. I find it disturbing.