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Sky TV when claiming benefit?

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phoenix Thu 29-Jun-17 20:36:30

Did you know that when filling in an income and expenditure form to claim benefits, there is a box for television subscriptions, i.e. Sky packages?

It would seem (and I'm choosing my words carefully) that it is regarded as an outgoing that is taken into consideration.

Surely it should be regarded as a luxury, non essential expense?

I must admit we have never had Sky, so don't know about the situation with regard to contract etc, so usual Phoenix disclaimer of "could be wrong, often am" !

rosesarered Thu 29-Jun-17 20:42:51

Yes Phoenix it's an annual contract that would have to be fulfilled, so could not be classed as a luxury.At least, ours is !

Grannyknot Thu 29-Jun-17 20:45:39

Sky is a luxury because there are cheaper multi or subscription channels a-plenty nowadays e.g. Netflix is under £10 a month.

phoenix Thu 29-Jun-17 20:47:42

Thanks roses, I did wonder. Would they not allow you to opt out if circumstances changed? Just think that if someone was really struggling, the money spent on Sky could be better used.

MamaCaz Thu 29-Jun-17 20:48:22

Phoenix, i am only guessing, having no real knowledge of this, but if the answer was 'yes', perhaps they would then want to know if the subscription was still with the contract period. If it was, the claimant would not be able to opt out without a financial penalty, so maybe that enters into the calculation?

rosesarered Thu 29-Jun-17 21:12:52

It's part of outgoings for a family isn't it? As such, has to be paid, although Sky may choose to let a person pay smaller amounts until it's paid.equally, maybe they wouldn't! Utilities would do, but when applying for benefits all outgoings are probably taken into consideration.

Anniebach Thu 29-Jun-17 21:19:05

Does it say tv subscriptions or Sky subscriptions ?

Ana Thu 29-Jun-17 21:22:25

They just want a list of your income and expenditure.

If you're entitled to benefits, they can't tell you how to spend the money (think of how many smoke and have pets - and that's not being judgemental, just an observation).

durhamjen Thu 29-Jun-17 21:23:40

I've just looked this up, and every council has its own form. Not one of them so far said Sky subscription, and I've checked half a dozen.
So where did you get this information from, Phoenix?

Nanabilly Thu 29-Jun-17 21:24:39

I think it's wrong that folks on benefits have sky and phones and many of them smoke and drink too ..most of us in work have to choose which we want ...if any...
sky prices are ridiculously high how can they moan that they can't afford to eat but have high price tv packages.
Ok they might be tied into a 12 month contract but how many give it up at the end of that contract so they can spend that money on more important things.

durhamjen Thu 29-Jun-17 21:29:23

Not allowed phones now?

rosesarered Thu 29-Jun-17 21:34:30

If you suddenly lose your job,contracts still have to be paid for, at least until the end of the contract, it would be unfair not to take Sky or phone contracts into consideration as outgoings nanabilly

Deedaa Thu 29-Jun-17 21:35:34

Many people are not on benefits from choice. Redundancy, illness, divorce or bereavement can hit anyone. It's a bleak world if they are allowed no pleasures just because of their circumstances. I'm not advocating a life of luxury and I do get annoyed by the ones who continue to produce children every year, but some semblance of normal life seems reasonable to me.

Grannyknot Thu 29-Jun-17 21:43:08

I should qualify my comment - it want made in relation to claiming benefits. Just that I consider it a luxury, because it doesn't come cheap.

Grannyknot Thu 29-Jun-17 21:43:26

Wasn't not want.

phoenix Thu 29-Jun-17 21:44:14

Apologies, (esp. to DJ) I was getting confuddled between the forms filled in to claim benefits, and those relating to payment arrangements for debt.blush

However, I do think that when applying for some benefits, if you are paying rent, it is taken into account, but it is a different thing with a mortgage.

GracesGranMK2 Thu 29-Jun-17 22:00:02

Which benefits are the ones that have this on the form?
This is the Pension Credit one and it isn't on there.

durhamjen Thu 29-Jun-17 22:00:29

Thanks, phoenix. It was interesting finding out, anyway. A couple of the councils that I looked at wouldn't let you find out until you'd filled in your name and address! So I didn't.

GracesGranMK2 Thu 29-Jun-17 22:04:41

Attendance Allowance form

Not on this one either.

GracesGranMK2 Thu 29-Jun-17 22:05:01

Could it be an urban myth?

Luckygirl Thu 29-Jun-17 22:05:12

If it is a contract the family would have to finish paying it, before going on to something like Freeview that does not cost, I think it is reasonable that benefits should take that into consideration.

Anniebach Thu 29-Jun-17 22:05:49

Time these people who have to rely on benefits learned their place , a mobile phone? a tv subscription? Good grief do they think they have a right such extravagance , do they not realise they have no right to what the more affluent consider extravagant luxuries

GracesGranMK2 Thu 29-Jun-17 22:08:40

Sorry phoenix has started on my bit of research before I read your post.

Ana - I didn't read your post as being in the least bit judgemental - just the opposite.

phoenix Thu 29-Jun-17 22:08:47

Deedaa as someone who unexpectedly was on benefits following redundancy, and who also know of a family with 7 children, where the husband hasn't worked since the age of 19, due to "health problems" I agree with you, to an extent.

However, having gone round the supermarket with a calculator to check if we could actually afford a small jar of coffee, when we had a ridiculously small amount of benefit to live on (if anyone wants umpteen recipes for chicken thighs, £2.49 for 12 from Lidl, I'm your girl, or how to get God knows how many meals from a pound of mince, and my "random vegetable soup" is legendary)

Yes, some semblance of normal life is reasonable, unfortunately the time we had to spend on benefit had no semblance of normal life, and nearly cost us our home, as mortgage payments are not taken into consideration.

durhamjen Thu 29-Jun-17 22:11:38

Do you not still have your mortgage interest payments paid?
I know you used to.