Rehousing issue for Grenfell Towers survivors

By the way, it's now over a hundred days since the fire. They should have sorted things out by now.

What length of time should a family be without food?
The council shouldn't be running Care for Grenfell. They are not trusted or trustworthy. If they were, this wouldn't have happened.

It was a short time, in my opinion for the charities to start distributing funds. Within 6 days. I don't know if that includes the person who had to use a food bank.

The whole quote from Emma Dent Coad is
"Another survivor family was having trouble getting their money out of the council because of a computer glitch and ended up going to a foodbank"

I think that 'out of the council' is a salient point here.
She was complaining about the council response and the council run 'Care for Grenfell' team.

I think it's difficult to judge this situation, given that the charities have no reason to lie about the distribution.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2017/09/26/grenfell-tories-human_n_18109642.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK+Politics

This woman lost four friends in the fire.

Chris Williamson is the shadow minister for fire safety.
I'd be surprised if the tories had one.

And you still haven't bothered reading the article, have you, lemon?

Here's another one for you not to read.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/chris-williamson/grenfell-fire_b_18096158.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK+Politics

Or a short time.

So this isn't true lemon
The money given is quite generous,and hopefully it would be a very short time before it came through

Because it could be a very long time

of course, there will be a lot of problems, anyone who has had their house burned down, and all their paperwork with it, will have problems starting up again, but I believe that the Council is doing all it can to be of help, including money.Housing is also being found, bought especially etc.
No amount of money helps with trauma issues, but it does help a family to continue living.

Actually I can see that there would be a problem for the Grenfell survivors to access money. Think of all the info you need to open a bank account. These people will have no IDs, no utility bills, no rent or council tax bills, many of them will have difficulty getting new passports. In fact I can see lots of problems. What I can't see is why anyone would imagine that any amount of money would compensate them or why anyone would question their accounts.

I could get off this thread if I chose to, your permission is not needed or respected

Because the Council didn't pay attention to the residents concerns about fire risks, allegedly, that doesn't mean that the residents are being badly treated now in fact.

Tell that to the people of Grenfell. They've been trying to get a proper response from their council for years.
Denigrating their council was all they had left.
You don't really expect praise for Kensington and Chelsea, do you?
Get real.

You can't tell posters to leave a thread durhamjen you don't own it.
Huh? Being petty? What the?
I was saying that most people are being helped in all sorts of ways that we can't know about, and many ways in which we do know about.
Trying to constantly denigrate anybody in authority, be it the Council or Government is idiotic.

I know you don't like me saying so, Annie, but you could just get off the thread and not comment.

For god's sake, lemon, do you have to be so petty?
These are people who have lost everything.
Many of them are feeling suicidal.
Have you no heart?

There was only a glitch for one person? You would need to know if the groceries were just for a few days and then it was all sorted out, which am assuming it was, and these things do happen.Can't believe that a survivor of Grenfell was ignored when she needed help.The money given is quite generous,and hopefully it would be a very short time before it came through.As for the disabled lady being forgotten, I guess that may happen ( even though it shouldn't ) for anybody, not just survivors of Grenfell.
In an ideal world, there would be no administrative glitches, but nobody should be in such a rush to condemn the council, or government or anyone else, because the goodwill is there to help them, and most are being helped.

I am not getting involved in discussions on the disaster, will not stoop to that, I will await the results of the enquiry

In the meantime, there WAS a woman who had to use a foodbank, because there was a glitch in the system which would not allow her any money, and another who was disabled left sitting in her own faeces because her carers had forgotten about her.

Perhaps you ought to read the link before commenting on the people involved.
Or do you think all Grenfell survivors are just out for what they can get?

She didn't sign her own piece of paper to get food from the foodbank - or maybe some of you think she did.

Presumably some will have insurance money ( some residents have good jobs) others will use the money for everyday purposes, there should be no food bank use needed and I would be very sceptical about that claim.

Shouldn't we wait for the result of the enquiry ?

But Grenfell Tower is about much more than that specific tragedy isn't it. Doesn't it come down to what we think Local Authorities are actually there for.
Should they be outsourcing so many responsibilities? Should they keep a closer oversight into what the companies that they have outsourced to are doing?
Have they lost expertise, so can have the wool pulled over their eyes, or not understand the ramifications of using one product instead of another in building works?
If they are just there to collect Council Tax, what are they doing with the money?
If they have large reserves, what are they reserving this money for?
It's a big subject for discussion.
Then what about should Governments advise building contractors on safety issues? Should they request that proper safety procedures are put in place (sprinklers etc.) Or should they legislate to make sure that they are?
This tragedy has happened and we should try to learn from it, both to try and prevent another tragedy, but also to learn how to respond to it.

By the way, these people have lost everything. It's okay saying they have been given so much money.
What are your contents valued at?

Who would you rather believe, a person who was in the fire and told her new Labour MP about it, or a Tory councillor who was part of the system that allowed Grenfell to happen?

Do you really think that people are not interested in Grenfell? People who live in similar towers, who have family and friends living in similar towers, who have children in schools with similar cladding, or have been in hospitals with similar cladding?

Never over tragedies, using that fire why? And I don't know if it's true they were told not to talk to their MP , neither do you.

This tragedy should not be part of the conference and I do not believe more people across the four countries were more interested in the fire than in brexit.