Rehousing issue for Grenfell Towers survivors

So you are not bothered by diversity, lemongrove?

In lots of other circumstances it could be illegal. Why not in this one?

Some posters never seem to amaze me.

It is bonkers indeed Baggs some forums never cease to amaze me.?

Their own colour !? I have never read more ridiculous posts.
African countries, Black Christians, black muslims, also Asian countries, Indian Hindu, Indian Muslim, Pakistani Muslim, Bangladeshi, Libyan, Syrian, etc etc.are they all deemed to be the same?Because the survivors of the fire are probably all of these and more.
None of your business durhamjen as to what ethnicity I am, although you seem to take an extremely nosy interest in other posters.

Baggs, anybody can ask for a jury to be changed to reflect their own colour, so yes, you could, if you were white, living in a BME area, challenge any juror who wasn't white, just by looking at them.

Why is an investigation into housing, fire safety, etc, etc, turning into one about skin colour? Bonkers.

Why is it assumed that an all white panel will not have the required diversity of thought and understanding?

Has anyone said "no people of colour" on the panel? Or has it just turned out like that because most people in Britain are not people of colour.

Would it be reasonable for me to ask for a white person on a jury that happened to be all people of colour (which, in some areas of Britain would be quite possible) and was judging my case?

Would it be reasonable for me to ask for a white person if I were in an African or Asian country?

Answer, in both cases: no.

What has happened to the hope of Martin Luther King that the colour of a person's skin should not matter except for description and identification, like hair or eye colour?

What is wrong with them wanting diversity in the panel?
What is wrong with justice being seen to be diverse?

25 people who could be on that panel who are BME.

It's easy enough for white people to say it will be okay. What about those who were affected?
Look at the colour of those who have died.

I am not at all surprised that the Grenfell survivors are upset.

Jen, how come so many here understand their problems ? Are we all of colour? does it take a certain skin colour to understand grief, anger , injustice ? What is so wrong is the assumption the truth will be hidden because the panel MAY be all white British ,who will be on the panel will be announced this week . I don't care what skin colour , I want a fair hearing,

No more to say on the subject, I will wait the decisions of the team .

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/grenfell-inquiry-diverse-bmelawyers4grenfell_uk_59b7c593e4b031cc65cc917e

Can you imagine if someone said "No women" on a panel? Then there would be an outcry. Equality requires everyone should be represented.

I bet you are white British, lemongrove. It's easy enough to say that if you are.
All employers are required to consider equality and diversity. Why not all panels like this?

I presume you are asking Annie, Baggs.
She is the one who said they choose to live in England, the majority of English are not of colour.

Nobody was demanding that any panel should be comprised of a certain skin colour. They wanted one person who knew what their problems were because of skin colour. That's all. Not a lot to ask in the circumstances.

It is both racist and unfair to demand that any panel should be comprised of certain skin colour, it is just that, colour, which in my book means nothing at all.

What matters most is a fair hearing. Skin colour is irrelevant.

And, yes, it is a bit racist to imply, on no evidence, that someone of a different skin colour will not give one a fair hearing.

What have the feelings of the majority of white British got to do with it? And how would one know what those were anyway? I think that's descending into the realm of just silly.

Jen, nothing to do with the feelings of the white British,

So what do you think matters most, Annie, the feelings of the majority of the white British, or the feelings of those who have lost their homes and everything in them, including their friends and families in some cases?

No I will not withdraw it Trisher, some have complained there is no one of colour on the panel, why ? they live in England, they choose to live in England, the majority of English are not of colour as it has been put. Did they demand the firemen be of colour or the hospital staff , no, why assume they will not get a fair hearing . I hope they do get a fair hearing, but I dislike this complaint of the skin colour

Has anyone seen anything about those 60 flats that they were being offered, where the posh residents had complained?
They were supposed to be ready by the end of August, weren't they?

I'm sorry but I find your comment offensive and racist Anniebach I will give you the option of apologising and withdrawing it, but if you fail to do so I do intend to report it to GNHQ. It isn't something I have done before but I really don't think such remarks belong on GN

Mansell, eh?
I don't think he'd be any good at defending anyone in court.
Is he still alive?
80 of the Grenfell Tower residents aren't.
That's why it's a horrible thing to say.
The residents can't be playing the race card, as Annie so delicately put it.
If they weren't of the race or class they are, they wouldn't have been in Grenfell in the first place.
Annie's comment was sick.

Thank you Baggs, thank god someone has a sense of humour

Horrible thing to do too. My dad had it done to him once, outrageously.

I got the joke too. Hardly a big deal. The joke, being about Mansell and alFayed, is quite separate from the Grenfell Tower victims.

What a horrible thing to say.

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