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AIBU to be sick of the BBC's obsession with the White House?

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Riverwalk Sat 29-Jul-17 08:46:17

I know it's interesting and 'amusing' to observe the bizarre Trump presidency but does the BBC news have to lead with the resignation of a chief of staff?

It will have absolutely no direct effect on the UK - all these changes of personnel are indicative of Trump's modus operandi and of some interest to outsiders but shouldn't be the lead item on British media.

Earlier in the week the BBC World Service led all night with the news about replacing Obamacare. I can't imagine many people in the world, outside the US, are interested in that country's healthcare system as headline news.

I think journalists have watched too many episodes of The West Wing!

silverlining48 Sat 29-Jul-17 09:00:24

I suppose it highlightsp the instability of trump and his attitude to his presidency, ie replacing most of the experienced political staff with his family and wealthy friends. Which could ultimately affect us all very much.

Luckygirl Sat 29-Jul-17 09:03:31

I think you are right silverlining = his team look more like something from Korea - it is chilling and worrying and we need to know about it.

tanith Sat 29-Jul-17 10:01:26

Ultimately what happens as a result of Trumps Presidency will affect most of the World I prefer to have some insight into how things are spiralling out of control.

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 10:39:38

I agree with you Riverwalk. I have no problem with US news and it should be reported, but not so routinely as the headlines. I don't think it gives us any insight into the presidency as few of us know who the people are until the media tell us what to think about them. I mean, who knew who Reince Priebus was before he was sacked?

henetha Sat 29-Jul-17 10:50:34

Maybe it doesn't warrant being headline news, but it's certainly important that we know what's going on in the White House as Trump and all the shenanigans could have
an effect on us and the rest of the world. Personally I find it absolutely fascinating as well as somewhat worrying.

Jalima1108 Sat 29-Jul-17 11:01:59

Why do I keep reading that as Prince Rebus?
No matter now, he's gone!

Unfortunately, this Presidency is panning out more like a parochial soap opera than the fulfilment of one of the most important jobs on the planet.

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 11:04:03

Jalima gringringrin

Jalima1108 Sat 29-Jul-17 11:07:30

Oh, just had a look and his full name is Reinhold Richard Priebus.

Reinhold is so much easier to pronounce.
Is he the shortest serving Chief of Staff ever?

yggdrasil Sat 29-Jul-17 11:08:53

Kim Jong Un now has missiles that can reach anywhere in America it seems. Trump has a red button that can set of the USAs.
How long will he hold out?

And don't forget, once we have left the EU, we will have tied ourselves to Trump as the only real alternative. Ask Liam Fox!

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 13:11:46

yggdrasil Are you seriously suggesting you think nuclear war is imminent?

Wheniwasyourage Sat 29-Jul-17 13:18:02

I just hope that the Chinese can deal with North Korea before Trump starts to willy-wave with his nuclear weapons sad

M0nica Sat 29-Jul-17 15:50:09

I do think that what is happening in the White House should be headline news because it is of great concern to us.

In President Trump we have a populist president who never expected to win and is completely out of his depth when faced with the complexities of running a major power in the world like the USA. His relationships with other countries like China, Russia, North Korea, could make or break international peace.

So far he has proved to be volatile, emotional and unreliable; popping off twitters on any subject that occurs to him, trying to push through laws that are racial and prejudicial and violate human rights or getting votes by saying he will invest in projects that are completely impractical, like the wall between Mexico and the USA.

Since arriving in the White House the revelations about his and his family's relations with Russia have been distinctly worrying. As have his gung-ho threats to North Korea. He and his coterie of cronies have promulgated and defended falsehoods, like the number of people in the crowd for his inauguration exceeded those at Barack Obama's, to name but one.

Who is in and who is out in the group of advisoes around him is of great significance as a guide to how this unstable and possibly paranoid president is going to govern, what policies he will push forward, even more importantly how he will react when these policies are defeated, like the reform of Obamacare this week. As has been pointed out he can launch nuclear missiles against North Korea, Syria, Saudi Arabia.

Everything happening in the USA under this President: changes of personal, defeat of OBamacare are of deep significance to this country and I, for one have been following them carefully and listening to the radio and reading the newspapers that have the informed interviews and articles that discuss these events in great detail.

paddyann Sat 29-Jul-17 17:59:15

I'm far more worried about Trump than I have ever been about ANY Russian/USSR leader or North Korea .We need to know wht this eegit is up to for our own safety .I keep thinking his presidency cant last long ,then I hear his supporters on TV and it fills me with sheer panic .I didn't realise there were this many deluded fools in the world

Riverwalk Sat 29-Jul-17 18:32:56

I do think that what is happening in the White House should be headline news because it is of great concern to us.

For the life of me I can't see how it's headline news in the UK that he's sacked his Chief of Staff or that Congress didn't pass a new healthcare act.

Jalima1108 Sat 29-Jul-17 18:40:37

paddyann I am worried about Trump and North Korea.

I think that it continuing news of the chaos of his administration Riverwalk and we do need to hear about it, although I would agree that that should not be the first item of our news.

Jalima1108 Sat 29-Jul-17 18:41:05

Unless he is impeached or resigns!

Riverwalk Sat 29-Jul-17 18:59:43

Indeed Jalima, of course we should hear from our media of what's going on in the White House, but unless he's impeached, resigns, or buggered his vice-president I really don't think it necessary that the BBC should be headlining changes of personnel in the West Wing!

Priebus's sacking is of very little direct interest or concern for 99% of the UK population.

Iam64 Sat 29-Jul-17 19:21:11

I share the view expressed by many that what is happening in the Trump White House affects us and the rest of the world. No I don't believe it's being given too much media attention. He's a dangerous unstable individual. He seems to be treating his staff much as he did in e Apprentice, I've gone off you, you're fired.

His actions could lead to impeachment or arrest so I want the zbBC, like every other media organisation, to keep us informed. I don't understand the reference to "or buggered his vice-president". Would that be news because he and Pence would be breaking their marriage vows, or because Pence is a right wing evangelical Christian, so gay sex is a sin?

Elrel Sat 29-Jul-17 19:37:54

Where are the 'checks and balances' which moderate Americans believed would keep Trump from running riot?

Riverwalk Sat 29-Jul-17 19:54:47

I share the view expressed by many that what is happening in the Trump White House affects us and the rest of the world.

How does the sacking of Priebus and the healthcare business affect us?

Jalima1108 Sat 29-Jul-17 21:15:04

I think because it is an indication of instability, which could affect us all.

M0nica Sat 29-Jul-17 21:32:59

The sacking of Priebus affects us because it is a guide to the turmoil in Trump's personal office and which group is gaining aswcendancy.

When Trump took over as POTUS, he appointed people to his office who, despite some of them being pretty flaky, were Washington people, who could move between the two worlds, Trump world and the broader Washington political world. Over the last few months we have seen some of these being forced to resign by Congress, others being pushed out by Trump.

Trump's recent appointment of Anthony Scarammucci in charge of public affairs aka PR is a move to his core supporters, who have always been anti-Washington and anti-government. The importance of Priebus is that he was, until his recent sacking, one of the saner, more rational middle ground people in Trump's office. His departure, sacked by Scarammuchi, who has accused him, on what evidence I do not know of leaking to the press, No evidence has been published, that I know of indicates that Trump with each problem is walling himself in behind a barrier of very anti-government friends and relations, cutting himself off, more and more from the real world.

This could lead to him and his government taking less and less notice of the elected representatives of the US in Senate and Congress and pushing his personal powers to the limit and over to get his way.

That deals with the sackings

Obamacare. Trump made changing Obamacare one of the central pillars of his campaign. It won him votes. He said he would start to demolish it on Day 1. Six month in he is making his second attempt to change it - and has lost again. Although some republicans d not back his bill because they want Obamacare completely abolished, not just changed. Some republicans have been voting with democrats to keep it.

This shows how both the republican party, never much enamoured of Trump are now actively opposing him. On a personal level as Trump finds it more and more difficult to implement his main campaign promises, it is going to either undermine his voter support, or possibly harden it and it could cause major internal dissension and disorder in the US. It could again, make his government more unstable and his behaviour more volatile.

It is not the individual issues, the sacking of someone in the White House or the reorganisation of Healthcare in US that matters. It is what they are telling us about the current governance of the US and the unstable and volatile nature of its president and his supporters and that is very important to us and we need to realise this.

My apologies for two such long posts. They represent the seriousness of the situation and how little this is understood by many in the UK

Iam64 Sat 29-Jul-17 22:01:16

It affects us because it reflects the instable, volatile atmosphere in the White House. What Jalima and MOnica said

Imperfect27 Sun 30-Jul-17 15:46:14

I think there is some imbalance in coverage - Newsnight seesms dedicated to little else, but Trump's escapades at present. It really is a case of 'what the naughty man did next'. Never thought I would be the one to say this, but shouldn't Brexit issues have more domestic focus for us? (Ducking)