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To expect this NOT to happen when viewing a house for sale..

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Kateykrunch Sat 12-Aug-17 13:44:17

We are bungalow hunting, were were told by the Estate Agent that as the property had a tenant in and due to there being a lot of interest they would do a mass viewing this morning at 11am. When we got there, there were around 20 other people milling around on the driveway. The rep let everyone inside and around the exterior of the property. We went inside, into the lounge where a man and woman were sat on the sofa and chair, the woman was holding a little dog, she said the dog was a little scared of all the people, obviously they were the tenants, I thought, I wonder why they didnt just go out for an hour. We continued our look around, my hubby poked his head into a bedroom and someone said to him, its okay, you can come in and look round! (She was naked on the bed lol, she wasn't I just couldn't resist sorry). As I was about to enter, hubby is scuttling out and says, there is someone in bed, to which the voice says, its okay come and look round, I am just poorly!, I didnt go in, I thought it really inappropriate and on leaving, I said to the rep. there is someone ill in bed in that room, he said, yes I know, she has Cancer! I can see now that that is why the tenants may not have gone out. If the viewings needed to go ahead rather than being cancelled, I think it would have been acceptable to just explain that, that room was off limits at that time. I really can't quite believe it.

paddyann Sat 12-Aug-17 13:50:23

What kind of landlord would put a tenant with cancer through that? And what kind of estate agent would agree to it? Its totally unacceptable in my book and we are landlords.He knows the tenant is ill and her family wont leave her on her own yet he parades 20 people through her HOME .Shocking,I'd be letting both the the agent and the landlord know exactly what I think of them ,in no uncertain terms.

NanaandGrampy Sat 12-Aug-17 13:55:36

That's appalling. When we arranged mass viewing the rules ( as set by the agent) were one family at a time, and taken round each room by the agent.

That sounds awful and if I was the tenant I'd be lodging some complaints .

DameJudyClench Sat 12-Aug-17 14:01:50

Good grief! - that's appalling! shock

harrigran Sat 12-Aug-17 14:09:13

I might be missing the point but why would you buy a house with a sitting tenant ? Or is the landlord expecting the tenant to die and leave the property vacant ?

paddyann Sat 12-Aug-17 14:36:20

selling a property is one of the few reasons you can ask a tenant to leave ,you cant just throw people out nowadays even if they owe you a fortune in rent

Kateykrunch Sat 12-Aug-17 15:18:09

Harrigan, neither senario, we arn't and he isn't.

Riverwalk Sat 12-Aug-17 16:04:34

As I understand it, tenants don't even have to agree to any viewings.

This sounds an awful scenario - poor tenants.

glammanana Sat 12-Aug-17 17:21:56

How awful for the tenant,are we sure that the couple on the sofa with the dog lived there or where they in the property to support the poorly lady,either way it is a dispicable arrangement the things EAs will do to secure the sale of a property,open house viewing is getting more and more popular but most EA stagger the viewing times and arrange for any offers to be presented over the few days following.

Moneyboss Sat 12-Aug-17 17:51:18

That's awful. Whatever the reason for the mass viewings, things should have been organised in such a way as to be sympathetic to the tenants.

Iam64 Sun 13-Aug-17 13:29:08

Horrible but - is it possible the owner has been trying to get these tenants to leave and all attempts have failed, hence putting the house up for sale.
Don't shoot me please - I've seen some awful landlords, some excellent landlords. Same with tenants, some of who deliberately destroy fixtures and fittings then leave owing months of rent.

Witzend Mon 14-Aug-17 10:49:38

All other matters aside, can you be sure the house is being sold with vacant possession? Can you be sure that the tenants would have left, and you wouldn't have an awful lot of headaches gaining possession?

Having said that, I have a rental property and I wouldn't dream of expecting my tenants to put up with viewings in what is their home - sundry strangers traipsing all over it - until after they would have left.

Stansgran Mon 14-Aug-17 11:26:31

We were once shown round a house by the owner(?) who showed us a bedroom with someone asleep in bed. He said it was his mother and she was dying. Embarrassed and shocked to say the least.

maryeliza54 Mon 14-Aug-17 12:04:28

Iam - if the owner is having problems getting the tenants to leave, surely he has legal avenues to go through. What he is doing at the moment with an apparently seriously ill woman could be construed as harassment under the law. It sounds awful but of course we don't know the full story

travelsafar Mon 14-Aug-17 12:07:41

i certainky would not rent from someone like this.Shows no respect for human dignity!!!! Shocking behaviour IMO

Deedaa Mon 14-Aug-17 16:13:00

I suppose that they may have thought it would cause less disruption for the tenants to have all the viewings done at once rather than people turning up day after day.

harrigran Mon 14-Aug-17 16:19:39

This must be more common than I thought. I went to view a house with DS and DIL and the DD of the house was in bed but lady told us to feel free to walk into the teenager's room. We later heard that lady was selling under duress from husband as they were in the process of divorcing and she hoped the house wouldn't sell.

HeyHo Tue 15-Aug-17 09:45:04

No but you can just give them 2 months notice! We are tenants - we have never owed rent, and have cared for properties, as they are our home but 3 times we have been told to leave our home - imagine how that feels!!!

grandadoscar Tue 15-Aug-17 09:49:46

clearly awful situation. it does sound like the landlord is trying to get the tenants out. personally no matter how good the selling price was it would put me off buying. the tenants could cause problems in the sale going through.

Ramblingrose22 Tue 15-Aug-17 10:01:05

I hate these mass viewings. Estate agents like them because it saves them time showing people round individually. The tenants must also have felt very uncomfortable but obviously the landlord and agents couldn't care less. If I was told tenants lived there, I would want to know if the property is being sold with vacant possession. I have heard that you can evict tenants if the property has a mortgage but am not sure if there are still categories of tenants who have a permanent right to remain.

jevive73 Tue 15-Aug-17 10:09:14

i think everyone should boycott mass viewings. it is only to encourage high bidding from buyers and completely unnecessary. i think the agent and landlord behaved poorly and unprofessionally

icanhandthemback Tue 15-Aug-17 10:10:15

It sounds horrendous for the poorly tenant but maybe they felt more comfortable having one mass viewing than a series of viewings. If it was a lazy estate agent that would be unconscionable.
It may be that the cancer is terminal and the lady in question is going into a hospice so will not be able to pay the rent. I would have thought it might have been kinder to wait but it could be the majority of the Landlord's income.
We had a lady who suffered from cancer who owed an extortionate amount of rent even though she had been paid it by the benefits office. She would lie through her back teeth over anything and by the time she left, of her own accord because she had so many creditors knocking the door, we were so relieved and happy to overlook outstanding rent. I'd have paid to get rid of her but her cancer inhibited us because we didn't want to be unkind. It's a pity she didn't have the same values.
If you are renting, it might be better to avoid this landlord unless you get to the bottom of the seemingly unkind behaviour.

radicalnan Tue 15-Aug-17 10:16:09

When I viewed this house, it gradually dawned on me that the walls were covered in pictures of the current owner naked. I didn't know where to look.

I think for agents to take viewings when people are in bed is despicable. It just is.

JanaNana Tue 15-Aug-17 10:16:18

How awful for everyone. The tenants and prospective buyers must have all felt awkward and embarrassed. The only time I have seen or heard of these open day viewings is on a Phil Spencer programme were people are really struggling to sell. Still remember someone on this programme opening someone's wardrobe and looking through their things (so rude as freestanding) and not one that would be part of fixtures and fittings.

Rosina Tue 15-Aug-17 10:17:17

What a dreadful way to behave towards the people in the sitting room, the sick one, and not to mention the poor nervous dog. The behaviour of that landlord is almost feudal, and I thought there were rules about viewings when properties were occupied by tenants. They must have all felt that they had suffered some kind of assault with all those people milling about, gawping and trampling through their home. The Estate Agent and the landlord would get an email or phone call from us if we were presented with that sort of viewing. Totally unacceptable and unkind behaviour.