Snow and school closures.

Of course, all those with zero hours contracts will get nothing.
Who thinks zero hours contracts are a good idea now?

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Oh for goodness sake . No it isn’t about teachers getting paid ! It’s about many working parents ( they don’t all work in the public sector you know) NOT getting paid !
There’s a huge difference .

Exactly DJ you can’t get in to work you don’t get paid ! Sadly a reality for many including my daughter and she’s not on a zero hours contract !

Gillybob, I said it SHOULD be allowed for in the contract.
Perhaps you should tell your daughter and son in law to get different jobs where the employer thinks of the employee.
None of my sons and daughters in law will have any pay docked.

Well said, OldMeg.
It's well known that teachers work more unpaid overtime than any other occupation.

This is about professionals who get paid an annual salary, not by the hour. Stop knocking teachers who didn’t themselves make the decision to close and it was quite clear that you felt they shouldn’t be paid just because your daughter’s job doesn’t operate in that way.

My daughter is public sector - she could have got in but was concerned about getting back so was able to take a day’s leave from her holiday entitlement. And anyway, there’s a real difference between your place of work being closed when of course you should get paid and your not being able to get in when you should be able to take holiday.

The race to the bottom is so edifying isn’t it? I can’t have it so I don’t want anyone else to have it.

Don’t tell me what I felt Old Meg.

I again make the point that many people working in private companies do not get paid if they can’t fit whatever reason get to work . End of. Can I make it any more clear than that ?

Oh yes I’ll tell her to leave her secure job when she’s almost 32 weeks pregnant ( and will have to go back very soon after the birth) very sensible decision that would be durhamjen ..... not .

Oh and for the record my daughter doesn’t have any children (yet) either.

I can’t believe that a days holiday entitlement wasn’t a possibility for many employees. And btw, my dd’s childminder was still paid as is quite right

I’m not sure if I might be typing in Marsian today ???
No racing to the bottom, top or anywhere else for that matter . No saying teachers shouldn’t get paid . Just trying to make it clear that many people do not get paid if they don’t make it in to work and 3 days of lost wages is no laughing matter !

maryeliza I rarely concur with you but in this instance you are spot on!

But the bottom line is that if work is open and you can’t get it, it’s holiday or lose pay ( or not if contract is better).If work is closed, then you should be paid as usual.

Like most large manufacturers my daughters partner has set holidays he can’t just take them to please himself . Production has to be planned.

OldMeg

Well gilly that’s just tough - we have someone in the same situation in our family. But he doesn’t begrudge the fact that others can take leave.

He's not pregnant, is he?
He can get another job.

Is he in a union? What does his union say?

And I stayed over two nights in a hotel so that I would be able to work. I’m self employed so wouldn’t have been paid if I’d not been able to get in. My ‘employers’ paid for the hotel as my absence would have cost them thousands otherwise.

Your nasty sarcasm is once again noted durhamjen .

It’s not easy to leave jobs and find others here in the North East is it ? Of course you know all about that too don’t you ?

No one begrudging anyone anything maryeliza . Just saying some employers are not as decent and generous as others . Infact many couldn’t give a sh*t about the people who work for them .

Sorry, but where is the sarcasm?
I am just asking you about the family that you regularly tell us about on here.
Why can't he change jobs if he doesn't like the working conditions?
There are jobs in the North East.
One of my sons was made redundant and was out of work for a month or two last year. He's been in work ever since, though, so I know as much as you do about jobs in the North East.
You say he works for a big employer, in which case he should have a union he can belong to.
What does the union say?

gilly your posts are always very negative about the public sector and its workers. The real issue is the terms and conditions of so many in the private sector - large greedy companies with Directors being paid telephone number salaries and bonuses and refusing to recognise unions ( thanks to Tory legislation) or to treat their employees as human beings. That’s where the faults are

He's not pregnant, is he?
He can get another job

Not sarcastic? Really ?