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to ask why several prominent members seem to have vanished?!?

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jura2 Mon 09-Apr-18 16:44:10

Could anyone help here - some long serving and very interesting members seem to have just vanished. How did that happen. DJ, GGMK2 and WW. Where? and Why?

MawBroon Wed 11-Apr-18 16:43:15

<sigh, sigh and thrice sigh>
Here we go a Brexiting - again hmm

Jura May well mix with women in the U.K. who don’t “do” politics, and be basing her observation on them. I am glad to say those of my acquaintance do.
And this comment sounds awfully like knocking us in the U.K. again - rich from a country where (some ) women only finally got the vote in 1971. One should not extrapolate from the particular to a sweeping generalisation.
As for expats not voting in the EU referendum?
One could say they had already voted, - with their feet.
It was the same for Scots who live and work south of the Border, we had no say in the Independence Referendum.
Same principle, same rules. I have no quarrel with that.

Anniebach Wed 11-Apr-18 16:26:31

Yet Corbyn refuses to try to change it

lemongrove Wed 11-Apr-18 16:19:32

Sigh! hmm

jura2 Wed 11-Apr-18 16:17:55

1000s did not vote because they were not allowed to. Do look at the Chart- like 10s of 1000s of expats in EU who are directly affected and were not allowed to vote.

And we do know now, as a fact, that that tiny majority was won on lies and fraudulent manipulation from many sides. As Farage himself said, a 48/52 majority would be unfinished business for sure. With all the new evidence available, this is even more so. Fact.

Do look at the Chart:

www.indy100.com/article/brexit-leave-remain-52-48-per-cent-voter-turnout-electoral-register-charts-7399226

And anyhow, a Referendum in our own Sovereign Parliamentary Democracy, has always been and will be, advisory. Cameron had no right whatsoever to make the promise that it would be implemented- none wahtsoever- according to our own... see above.

kittylester Wed 11-Apr-18 16:15:58

I voted remain baggs but I still like and respect you and any one else on here who voted leave.

jura, were there lots of women who said they didn't 'believe' in politics. I find that hard to understand. Only one woman of my acquaintance doesn't 'do' news or politics to one degree or another.

Baggs Wed 11-Apr-18 16:09:59

Although it is the will of the majority of those who voted. That's a fact, not an argument.

Baggs Wed 11-Apr-18 16:08:47

Sadly the brexit supporters have nothing positive to say and shut down debate with "we won, you lost, suck it up remoaners, its the will of the people blah, blah, blah". Perhaps that is why the three strongest pro-EU posters have just given up.

As one who feels very positive about Brexit, while still recognising its momentousness and why people are afraid of its consequences, I haven't spoken up out of fear of being called a bigot and a racist and various other non-complimentary things. I don't recall ever saying any of that stuff above.

jura2 Wed 11-Apr-18 15:51:13

Well it is rare indeed. We adopted here from a rescue- in 1992- and we were told by the vet she was 4 to 6 years old at the time (2 females with 10 kittens left by side of MWay in a taped cardboard box).

lemongrove Wed 11-Apr-18 15:39:52

Aren’t most of us old Jalima? grin

Jalima1108 Wed 11-Apr-18 15:36:05

I don't think I realised just how old she is.

(Pudding I mean)

lemongrove Wed 11-Apr-18 15:34:41

Varian The Argy is not meant to be about debating, but about having a good time.wine
Feel free to continue the Brexit debate, of course it was really the three departed posters who carried it along, but no reason for you not to revive it if you choose.
Since it was mainly Remainers on that thread there was no reason for the three posters to ‘have just given up’.
I recommend you have a look at any Brexit threads to confirm what I have just said.

jura2 Wed 11-Apr-18 15:18:02

Yes, I have mentionned Pudding before on the Pet thread- she is indeed a very very rare cat.

jura2 Wed 11-Apr-18 15:15:48

Yes, perfectly said Varian- thank you.

Other women often said to me in UK 'oh I don't believe in politics' - and the reply was 'so you don't believe about the NHS, Social Welfare and Justice, Workers' Rights, Education, Roads and transports, the environment, home and foreing diplomacy and security, collaboration and research, bit it medical or scientific, etc, etc, etc,'

If those things do no matter to you- then what does?

Wheniwasyourage Wed 11-Apr-18 14:33:18

Hear hear, varian. You often say what I am thinking, but you say it better than I would, and more succinctly. flowers

Ilovecheese Wed 11-Apr-18 14:29:26

I rather miss the links. if you have read something interesting or thought provoking, why not share it with others?

varian Wed 11-Apr-18 13:00:11

How easy it is for a thread to drift off to the debating level of the Argy. How difficult it is for any serious debate on Politics to be maintained. The three who have gone did make serious contributions to political debate and will be missed.

As someone who has been involved in politics for most of my life, I've debated health, education, taxation, defense, the legal system, the electoral system, local government, housing, etc, etc but now there is only one important issue for this country - brexit and the dangers it poses.

Sadly the brexit supporters have nothing positive to say and shut down debate with "we won, you lost, suck it up remoaners, its the will of the people blah, blah, blah". Perhaps that is why the three strongest pro-EU posters have just given up.

I hope we can on the GN Politics forum, continue to examine all aspects of the EU referendum and its consequences in an intelligent objective way.

lemongrove Tue 10-Apr-18 23:02:25

In any case you should be working behind the bar in The Argy right now.

lemongrove Tue 10-Apr-18 23:01:28

....and I promise to tell you off Chewy if you reply to something five pages back.?

lemongrove Tue 10-Apr-18 23:00:13

grin

Jalima1108 Tue 10-Apr-18 22:58:55

Pudding is British, and is 30 years old
30? Is this a cat shock or a human relative?

Chewbacca Tue 10-Apr-18 22:57:56

grin well it would probably be just as confusing as my usual ramblings Jalima!

Jalima1108 Tue 10-Apr-18 22:57:41

Do they all miaow in the same language jura?
Bearing in mind the news story that birds have regional accents!

Jalima1108 Tue 10-Apr-18 22:56:34

I promise not to tell you off if you reply to a post from five pages ago Chewbacca

Chewbacca Tue 10-Apr-18 22:42:17

I work during the day, and some evenings too, and so can't post as much. I sometimes sneak a look whilst I'm at work, but I can't really post if I see something that takes my interest until I get home. By then the thread has often moved on, way beyond where I saw "the interesting bit", and I've missed my moment! always was late to the party grin

MissAdventure Tue 10-Apr-18 22:39:17

So have I, now you come to mention it.. I don't want to do more important things though.
The crumbs on the rug will still be there tomorrow. (and the day after!) smile