to ask why several prominent members seem to have vanished?!?

Well said, trisher!

(at 10.22 & 10.41)

I think the Corbyn thread is grinding to a halt because it's no fun trying to wind up people who aren't there to respond...

There is one on Windrush POGS , Anti-semitism has been debated and the same accusations bandied about ad nauseam. Doesn't seem much point in starting a new thread when everyone will post the same things- of course they care- it's just that the Labour party are too left wing etc etc. In fact you could just cut and paste comments from other threads-so no need for anyone to post anything

The "real" LP of which I was once a member was a party for everyone. This excuse of a LP (Momentum) is a party of extremists who hate business (we are all fat cats after all) and is run by and dictated to, by dangerously powerful unions who would think nothing of bringing the country to a standstill.

trisher

"There is one on Windrush POGS".
Yes there is I said that!
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"Anti-semitism has been debated and the same accusations bandied about ad nauseam".
Yep and refuted ad nauseam hence there was debate / argument .
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" Doesn't seem much point in starting a new thread when everyone will post the same things".
I think that point applies to most threads to be honest . It's a cop out though .
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Nobody is stopping any GN member from posting or starting a thread !

No links to vox pox written by the Holocaust denier Mike Sivier

But Momentum are not the Labour Party. And the unions have always funded it. Arguably they have less members and less support than at any point in their history. I think you have given me an idea for a thread!

Happy to be of service trisher

Our MP originally backed Burnham for the leadership and received death threats for doing so (widely reported) . Quickly changed allegiance to the great one and was rewarded accordingly.

There is a difference between union funding and union dictatorship ! Our Local LP office is covered in Unite posters and Momentum posters. You could be forgiven for not being entirely sure who's offices they were.

For goodness sake start a ruddy thread on News and Politics and not rely on others to do it

Not quite clear who you were aiming that statement at POGS

I was just observing that the forum seemed to have died a bit since losing 3 regulars. Not particularly waiting for their lead before posting anything.

I've been awaiting with great interest all those previously totally cowed posters who would rush in and fill the gap with the opinions which had previously been viciously shouted down by the leftie tyrants. Not much in evidence yet...

However, we have moved on from staring at the closed door of a London clinic for days and days to excited anticipation of the imminent birth. I suppose that's progress...

That statement is aimed at you I should think MaizieD and also trisher and anyone else bemoaning loss of politics threads, if you have things to say, then say it!
There are new posters on just about every thread now, or hadn’t you noticed?
GN seems much more like it was when I first joined.
The anger levels about politics and Brexit had got way out of hand.

There are always new posters lemongrove what some of us lament is that any intellectual or critical debate seems to have been totally abandoned and what remains is the sort of chit-chat found in many gossip magazines, recipes for cakes, games and requests for advice. It indicates I suppose that some on GN are just as mindless as the youngsters they often decry. They're just not as honest about it all.

trisher start a thread then and you can have your ‘intellectual and critical ‘ debates, I’m sure there are a few like minded people who will be happy to contribute.

I feel, however that for many GNs who appear to be in poor health, house bound and have many problems, sometimes with no family members to help them, Gransnet is a lifeline for them, they don’t want to get into arguments online, they long for gossip and chit chat to help them to feel part of a community that they don’t have whilst they are trapped in their homes.

Some have worries which appear to them to be insurmountable and if I can help anyone out with advice, a recipe or a listening ear, then I will and I won’t feel it’s beneath me to do so.

Oh apologies Elegran. I did not mean you offended me. (Hugs) It just raised a point that makes me very cross.

It is the premise that only "Socialists" have compassion and care about others, spouted by those posters who have left and others.

I see so much hypocrisy in socialism and with the MPs who supposedly support it. There seem to be many tiers to socialism and I do think that for too long those with least ("oh what about the homeless!") are merely fodder for political ambition.

Increasingly white middle classes support socialism, living in their ivory towers and not at grass roots level where most of us live and work.

No socialist government has eradicated poverty, no socialist government has built homes so everyone has a roof over their heads, no socialist government has pumped money into the NHS or our schools or our transport systems so they it can cope with increased demand.

Socialist governments do tend to be gung-ho about spending money raised by taxation and working people.

Many of us fear what will emerge from Corbyn's Marxist party but you can bet your bottom dollar millionaire socialists who support him and far left Momentum won't be affected by the fall out.

There is less hassle on GN now, and quieter political threads. Could this be a Labour ploy just as elections are coming up? No hassle, less fuss, less indignation about Corbyn and far left Momentum?

I write with a smile but their absence - and don't forget socialist Grandad has been quiet too - could be strategic.

It wouldn't do to have lots of Grannies getting hot under the collar and writing lots of anti-Corbyn posts just before up-coming elections, would it?

Oh yes, a conspiracy theory without doubt, but it's strange that the most ardent socialists amongst us have erm, retreated, isn't it?

Thread started anyway. But I think it would be good to have both and i don't think tha being house bound or ill necessarily restricts peoples' thinking any more than getting old does.

Blimey Trisher. That is a sweeping generalisation!

Gransnet is many things to many people as Situpstraight describes.

I'd suggest a small percentage need or read the political threads and they are probably of a minority interest on such online forums. It's disingenuous to suggest "any intellectual or critical debate seems to have been totally abandoned" because of the loss of three posters!

If you want that level of 'political' debate (because that was their niche - they posted very little elsewhere) then we all know there are thousands of sources online which will provide it for you.

trisher I don't disagree that being house bound or ill doesn't mean someone isn't capable of logical thinking, however, when someone has been house bound or in ill health sometimes all they want is a bit of chit chat or gossip. It's like when you are depressed, you long for comfort food rather than the healthy diet (at least most of the people I know do!)

Vox pox was intellectual ?

Gransnet has plenty of space for chat, advice, moans, gardening, games as well as politics. We all have our favourite bits and ignore other threads.

I think Trisher’s point is that the Politics threads now have fewer in-depth debates and is becoming repetitiousness.

(Any more insults that can be hurled at Corbyn anyone? Perhaps consult a thesaurus!)

What is this Vox Pox you keep going on about Annie? Sounds like a communicable disease!

Insults? Saying a hypocrite is a hypocrite is not an insult, it is - stating a fact

Just a shortened version of vox political , written by the holocaust denier and friend of Corbyn , Mike Sivier

I’m not sure the hypocrisy to which you’re probably referring is a fact Annie it’s just your opinion. You’re entitled to your opinion.

I will not post a list again, you will find them on the Cobyn tbresd

Opinions Annie. You are entitled to your opinions.

Day 6 why shouldn't there be political debate on THIS site?
I don't expect people who want recipes to go to the hundreds of cooking and recipe sites available. They are entitled to ask on here if that's what they want.
There's nothing 'strategic' about the lack of Labour posters, we simply get tired of the same old name calling Corbyn's Marxist Party. And the same old "we do care but we don't want to spend any money"
And as someone who was educated, housed and cared for by a socialist government, they had a bloody good try at doing all the things you say they haven't.

You must be very young Trisher , born in the ninties , the only socialist government in power long enough to have housed, educated and cared for you, no one can be educated in five years