to ask why several prominent members seem to have vanished?!?

Sadly the brexit supporters have nothing positive to say and shut down debate with "we won, you lost, suck it up remoaners, its the will of the people blah, blah, blah".

And Remainers are still belittling those who voted to leave the EU. If the above has been your experience Varian then I am sorry - although all three points are true. I have engaged in some wonderful debates regarding Brexit. It's very true to say too that those who wanted to remain can only come up with "What about the economy" and when you ask them to enlarge all they can do is speculate. There is no depth there either.

I suspect the three who left got tired of defending Corbyn. I say that in jest, as I am not a fan.

People come and go. That is the nature of online debate. I daresay they will resurface with different names in the near future.

My country's government is standing by the vote too, jura. While I accept that my country and my country's government (of whatever political colour) is not perfect, I also know that it's not rotten to the core.

I think most people could and can always see through what I will call the poetic licence of political campaigns. I really don't think that any but a handful of people took the bus slogan literally, for instance, nor do I think it was meant literally.

Yes, there are different grades of democracy. The democratic rights I wanted with regard to the EU were not available to me so I wanted out.

Well, no one can answer the O/P question it seems

Well said maggiemaybe much as some regret the outcome of the Referendum, the real farce or do I mean tragedy, was why it was held in the first place, badly thought through and badly managed. One can only assume that DC and his cronies were so arrogant as to assume it was a done deal.
The EU may well implode before our exit is final - the issue of refugees seems to be violently divisive and it may be that like rats leaving the sinking ship, we were right to do it before getting our paws wet. Who is to say?
But bleating about it, flogging the proverbial dead horse is profoundly depressing and getting us nowhere.

'The democratic rights I wanted'

the democracy 'type' of your country is not what you want or do not want it to be - it is what it is- and ours is a Parliamentary Democracy - whether you or I, want it or not.

Aren’t most of us old Jalima?
Very, lemongrove but Pudding must be about 140!!

I agree with your post Wed 11-Apr-18 17:13:35 Maggiemaybe

And Remainers are still belittling those who voted to leave the EU
Not all of us Day6 - some of us have been appalled by the subtle nastiness and the demands for Brexiteers to predict accurately what will happen in the future.

No-one can do that - events happen constantly which are out of our control.

With regard to those who have lived abroad for more than 15 years - I can see it can be said to be reasonable in General Elections for them not to be able to vote, but the referendum result is likely to directly affect many more of those living in the EU than those still in the U.K. Exactly how is unclear at the moment and there is little point in worrying about it as the goal posts are constantly changing.
It is only the General Election and the EU elections that ex-pats can vote in anyway - they are allowed to vote in the local elections of the country they live in.

Jalima- she is indeed a bit of a miracle. Very thin now, does not go out and sleeps a lot, but eats so well and jumps on my bed first thing in morning and when I go to bed- or whenever I go up to out bedroom- and purrs and purrs her little heart out.

The first dog we adopted, Pepper, was with us for 18 years and he was also 'estimated' at 4 when we found him. Even Slinky the dachs was with daughter then ourselves for 17 years- and was no puppy when rescued. Our first cat, Thomas, when in Newcastle-u-Lyme, was 18 when we had to phts.

We have been blessed with their longeivity- perhaps, apart from Slinky the Dachs- because they were all mongrels. Our current adopties are Danish Jack Russel types, and at 13 and 11- just look and behave like puppies. We are very lucky.

But we digress, it seems.

I think the digressing happened (started) a while back

No pets here at the moment, but I do have some Grand-dogs and cats

Digression over

If we had a wave emoticon, or a like button, Id be waving and liking your post MaggieMaybe.
I'm a Leaver. I accept the vote. I wish Cameron had said it would be advisory. No referendum is binding in law. Humph.

I`ve just realised, after all the talk of missing posters, I haven`t seen anything from Oldgoat for a while, hope she`s OK.

Prolific posters are also old if belonging to Gransnet. They could well be dead. How would anyone know? Or they may find that their tablet logs them out willy nilly and they can't be bothered to log in every time. And Mumsnet is often a bit more interesting. I never look at the political threads because I know what I think and I'm always right. Re Brexit I'm astonished at the number of people who object to democracy.

Oldgoat has posted today callgirl on the York meet up thread.

Stansgran

Stansgran - which is why I asked if anyone knew?

As for Democracy- do go back a few posts. The UK has had a very long history of Parliamentary Democracy, with clear laws re Referendums being advisory.

Unlike other countries, like Switzerland. But I thought you Brexiters voted to keep your own Sovereign Democracy- or did you not. It is a confusing point of view.

I must admit that I have been guilty of unwittingly starting a thread where one already existed , but couldn't GNHQ advise that one of these two threads about "prominent" ( or dominant posters be used and let one of them lapse? It's difficult keeping track !

Too late now and anyway people are having far too much fun on both of them

And that will never do, will it? People, having fun. How very dare they.

But I thought you Brexiters voted to keep your own Sovereign Democracy- or did you not. It is a confusing point of view.

'Democracy' is different from Parliamentary Sovereignty though. I think that Leavers confuse the two. The vote was 'democratic' in that everyone who was eligible to vote had the opportunity to do so, but parliament was under no obligation to implement it because parliament is 'sovereign' not 'the people. They're free to ignore 'the people's' advice if they think it would not be in the interests of the country.

If it had been a referendum on bringing back capital punishment would right minded people have expected parliament to implement the decision had it been in favour? (Not, I think, that any government would be so stupid as to ask for 'the people's' advice on that question)

Thank you Lemongrove, I hardly ever go on the meet up threads these days. Oldgoat has just pm`d me though.

Indeed Maizie. What is so confusing, is that leavers says on the one hand they want our own Democracy, and not the EU's - and then ask for a referendum to be accepted with a tiny majority (and manipulated and worse at that) to be implemented- without the say of our Parliamentary Representatives. Both go totally again our own type of Democracy- which has been in place for centuries - total contradiction.