We have had several 'discussions' about leaving tissues, shirt collar stiffeners, screws and coins in clothing, not to mention the rolled up sleeves on shirts. However, after the machine had to be repaired when a collar stiffener got into the works, and several shirts were washed, dried and ironed after a fashion with the sleeves still rolled up, the message did seem to filter through. He does try - without one single domesticated bone in his body. I blame his mother for not making a better job of training, and myself for taking over where she left off and carrying on in the same vein. My DS is capable of doing everything.