The thing to remember in all this 'fiasco 'debacle', whatever you like to call it, is the fact that we actually know practically NOTHING .
Harry and royal aides may well have tried to be a help and support to the father only to be turned down.
Harry may have offered to go himself to meet Mr. Markle
around the time of the engagement, only to be turned down.
I'm not trying to defend the royals, or aides at all, as on the face of it, it does seem so bad that he has been left to his own devices as it were, but as he has been described many times as reclusive, maybe that's just what he wanted.
In view of Harry's 'family she never had' comment, maybe he knows quite well what a nightmare family they are (from Meghan?) so decided to leave them be.
After the father's dreadful photo scam stunt, perhaps that was wise.
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Meghan's father and photographer in photo scam
(341 Posts)I think this is completely ironic.
The Royal family had asked the press to respect the Markle family's privacy, but now it appears Mr. Markle has been involved in staging some photographic scoops of his own, despite being described as a 'recluse'
The Mail on Sunday exposed the story yesterday.
Apparently the photographer and Markle set up some exclusive shoots which were then sold to press agencies around the world.
It quickly became apparent though that the pictures were 'too perfect' and obviously staged, but not before the photographer involved had received a considerable amount of money. The paper has said it is not known if Mr. Markle received any payment, but if not, why on earth would he participate in such a thing?
The Royal family must be cringing.
I agree Sarah,
No difference at all paddyann they all court the media for their own benefits, so they can hardly call Mr M for doing the same.
I know I certainly am getting excited! Me and my best mate from schooldays are having a two-woman party complete with Key Lime Pie which is a tradition for me with royal weddings (being as it's american and all that - so don't ask me why)
Gabrielleg haven't members of the RF sold their time for favours ..I'm sure Andrew and fergie at least were involved in scams and wasn't "Princess Michael" involved in dodgy stuff too..and by the way ..the RF get paid every day to put themselves out there so whats the difference in the Markles doing it?
Everyone is getting very excited about this wedding
On GN anyway 
Excited? Jalima Really? Sick of bloomin' well hearing about it is more like it !
catta5
It would help enormously if you punctuated your comments.^ 
And Breathe!!
Everyone is getting very excited about this wedding
On GN anyway 
I couldn't agree more sun seeker. Do and try and say as you would be done and talked about. There are some posts here that as you say, leave a bad taste. What kind of influences lead to some people being delighted as the prospect of a young couple and their families going through this kind of stress a few days before their wedding.
I don't expect H and Megan had any choice - they couldn't just nip off and get quietly married in a Church, Register office or beach. It's part of the RF's public service to provide a spectacle, the majority of the population seem to enjoy it.
There a delicious British irony in all of this. Those who express most distate, dislike and wish to be rid of the RF seem to be spending a lot of time keeping up with the Windsors
Maddyone
Quote But he's American ? So what ?.He doesn't understand how it all works with royalty.
How would you know what the guy understands?
Regardless of what nationality one choses to marry is it not usual to 'meet the parents' As far as Harry was concerned he had only met his future wife's mother. Why not the father .? If has been alleged the family were dysfunctional then he was not marrying the family but a member of that family.Meghan finally decided on a wedding where the bride would be walked up the aisle by her father Not as initially believed was to be by her mother.What attempts were made to introduce Harry to her father? If as, you claim, Americans don't understand how our royalty works I question 'what has this to do with meeting ones future father in law isn't this a matter of respect what ever ones background.?
Look how long before Kate and William married.
I am not suggesting Harry and Megan go along that path.
However they only have themselves to blame if things are now, through their own doing, beginning to appear as we might observe happening in one of Meghan's TV series.
Gretna Green must seem a very tempting prospect for the two of them at the moment!!
Cant believe anyone takes any of The Mail articles seriously!. The R F havnt done much to help Mr Markle to be prepared for the invasion of his privacy . I have always liked Harry but on this occasion I feel it’s really quite unforgivable of him not to have met her father before now and helped to prepare him. Also Harrys regard to the press is a bit hypocritical too as they need to press to keep the Royal family going. Still shows the gutter press is alive and kicking in this country because of the voracity of the public desire for news of the royal family or rants about immigrants or whatever ,and it also shows that the palace still hasn’t got its act together again on how to handle these sort of things despite paying over £40 million a year on advisors! And no Im not a republican.
Anyway the fact is that no matter what circus the Markles want to create, they're not doing any harm to our royal family, it's all harmless and making money for them at no expense or harm to Meghan, Harry, or anyone else. Unsavory and undignified might be terms you can apply, or even "Vulgar" as Prince Philip might say, but at the end of the day it's just a harmless fiasco.
catta5
It would help enormously if you punctuated your comments. 
Anniebach, when people use the term "the palace" they obviously mean one or other of the royals. Not just Buckingham Palace. We say "the palace" to indicate that it will be the staff actually arranging it - on behalf of the royals.
JenniferEccles
Doria Ragland (Meghan's mother) has not been in Oprah's show. She HAS been to Oprah's mansion (as DM previously reported) to discuss appearing on the show for a Q&A session AFTER returning from the wedding.
I read that she left the mansion loaded with gifts.
The fee she will be paid for the proposed appearance is $400,000 according to TMZ and the American Press.
Unsavoury, to say the very least.
Anyone else feel that if the RF had arranged for Meghans parents to come to UK and kept them away from the press they would have been accused of trying to control them. It seems to me that no matter what anyone did, whether the RF or Meghan's family, the press and many others would have criticised.
I won't be watching the wedding, (although I wish them well) and have only a passing interest in the RF but don't think any of them deserve the attacks they are receiving.
It also leaves a bad taste that so many seem to be hoping that the marriage fails so they can gleefully say "I told you so"
All is odd from what we read brides mother will be with her in the car to take her to the service seems to it was all decided some time ago who was giving her away and Harry has not met her family so did not ask for her hand in marriage and let's face it he has well and truly stuck his fingers up at RF tradition divorced was not a Christian non white and no royal blood or nobility just an actress with baggage and a disfunctual family who she was not in close contact with
Again , why should the palace have done anything, why not Harry and Megan bring her parents here , they certaintly have plenty of room, I don’t understand why they are innocent in all this, are they not capable of thinking past themselves , I think not.
It seems to me that a lot of people seem to be of the opinion that either Harry or the Royal Family should have reached out to Megan's family. What if she didn't want this to happen? What if SHE didn't want Harry to meet her family? Surely it was up to her to lead or organise the meetings? Enough already!
I feel sorry for the Dad but it seems his other kids were so piqued that he hadn't sided with them and stayed away out of loyalty to them that they were determined to make it very hard for him to go. They won. No wonder Meghan doesn't want anything to do with them. I do feel sorry for the Dad, and like a newspaper journalist has said today, the Palace really should have done something about getting Meghan's mum and dad over to the UK at least 2 weeks in advance and ensured they had the services of dressers and groomers and rehearsals etc so they'd be more relaxed on the day AND AWAY FROM THE PRESS!!
I feel a bit sorry for him really. Yes, he has behaved foolishly, but he’s American, he doesn’t understand how it all works with royalty. I understood he has been pursued by the press, and agreed to the photos to get them off his back, though that obviously wasn’t going to happen. He needed some proper advice from this side of the Atlantic but clearly didn’t get it. Sad, and now he’s ill too.
Surely Harry who has ‘suffered at the hands of the media ‘ would have paved the way for his future father in law , he is a big boy now, just wish he would act like it,
Good question Jane, was Daddy at the first wedding
I believe Megan's father and family are very vulnerable to the press, media etc.They would have benefited from some support from the powers that be once the wedding has been announced. Lets hope her father is ok after his medical procedure it would be awful for eveyone if anything happened to him .
Paddyann/Blinko - Granted, read it back - does sound like British snobbery - can see it from both sides though, it's Meghan I feel most sorry for, at some point, she's going to need/want to reconcile with her family, and they haven't exactly been supportive, having said that maybe Harry/royal family haven't reached out to them.
I doubt if the Queen will be very bothered about this. She’s seen plenty of strange goings-on in her own family. She is old enough to remember the abdication, after all.
I wonder what Charles is making of it all?
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