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Trump Strong, May Weak?

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Bridgeit Sat 26-May-18 09:50:15

Given that Theresa May is considered by many to be weak, & Donald Trump is considered to be strong, who would you trust to conduct negotiations in difficult & potentially dangerous circumstances.?

Anniebach Sun 27-May-18 08:32:22

Well said Day6, well said. May is all you say, Trump is all you say.

Jane10 Sun 27-May-18 08:01:01

Well said Day6!

Day6 Sat 26-May-18 23:54:29

Trump is a loud-mouthed, egotistical, rich boy with the intelligence of a bus stop. He shoots from the hip and doesn't know the meaning of diplomacy.

May, whether you are a Conservative or not, whether you like her political stand or not, is a diligent, hard working, no frills politician. She has no side and plays with a straight bat. She doesn't need feminine whiles, praise, or glory. She just gets on with the job. In her short time in office she has been dealing with EU politicians, lawyers and advocates, ( delivering the mandate of the people, lest we forget) she has garnered world wide support for the UK regarding the use of deadly nerve agents on British soil and she has with the backing of NATO and our allies, fired warning shots against Putin and Syria with regard to their making and using chemical weapons against the people of Syria.

Let's just say, I for one am very glad she is at the helm. She's only been there for a comparitively short time, and there is no doubting she is a patriotic, calm and hard working PM. I can think of no other British politician who would have coped with the workload and necessary diplomacy she has had foisted on her by Cameron's hasty departure.

She gets my vote of approval. Trump is a one-off idiot narcissist. His style of leadership is jaw-droppingly bizarre and unique. And frightening.

Deedaa Sat 26-May-18 23:23:39

Trump may think he is strong but he is incredibly thin skinned and tries to make up for it by being a loud mouthed bully. The jury is out on whether he has the beginnings of dementia or whether he has ADHD and isn't taking his medication. Either way he could be very dangerous and is doing America no good at all.

OldMeg Sat 26-May-18 21:17:13

He certainly wouldn’t appreciate the sentiment Jalima!

BlueBelle Sat 26-May-18 21:16:12

Whoops so uncaring of the awful man I can’t get his wife s name right Thanks Jalima
Only person he ll make America great for is himself and his gun toting cronies the world is a far more dangerous place with his fingers on the button

Jalima1108 Sat 26-May-18 20:55:04

mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa if you’ll excuse my Latin!
I'm not sure that Trump would understand that OldMeg

Jalima1108 Sat 26-May-18 20:53:37

is your real name Ivana Belgravian or do you need to visit Specsavers
I doubt that even the lovely Melania (not Ivana, she divorced him) would think that though, Bluebelle grin

OldMeg Sat 26-May-18 20:47:21

You can have integrity if you blatantly lie.

mcem Sat 26-May-18 16:44:11

In all honesty I have never heard Trump described as a strong leader and fantastic president.
Even Kim Jong Un is looking like the epitome of diplomacy alongside Trump.
He is a dangerous buffoon who is, as I 've said before, too stupid to understand and too egocentric to care.

henetha Sat 26-May-18 16:00:05

Trump maybe making America 'great' again, but it's his kind of 'great' and without any regard for ethics or the less fortunate.
I may not be a big fan of Mrs.May but I think she is miles ahead of Trump in terms of morals, integrity, ethics, and just plain intelligence.

Iam64 Sat 26-May-18 15:48:31

The idea that Trump is making America great again is nonsense. The man is a dangerous bully. His business tactics weren’t ethical and he isn’t fit to run a country. His behaviour towards women, his use of language - what is positive about any of that.

If we hav to choose between Trump and Theresa, my vote goes to her every time

Anniebach Sat 26-May-18 14:50:49

May has integrity and dignity

Belgravian Sat 26-May-18 14:41:17

Jane10

Yes I agree with you there. No personal scandals.

Jane10 Sat 26-May-18 13:43:37

She's a decent respectable woman. No need for her to worry about previous sex scandals or any other aspects of her personal life coming out. You may not like her politics but she has integrity.

Belgravian Sat 26-May-18 13:16:39

OldMeg

I do believe he is making America great again.

Well, we agree on Mrs May! I just feel she is very ineffectual and completely lacking in charisma. Such a shame as I wanted to believe in her and support her.

OldMeg Sat 26-May-18 12:38:51

Actually I agree with you re May!

OldMeg Sat 26-May-18 12:38:17

Oh my! You mean you were serious. Apologies then mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa if you’ll excuse my Latin! ????

Belgravian Sat 26-May-18 12:31:58

OldMeg
Why mock me for having an opinion different to yours?

BlueBelle Sat 26-May-18 12:31:50

I ve never heard anyone describe Donald Rump as strong adorable or fantastic
is your real name Ivana Belgravian or do you need to visit Specsavers ????
Narcissitstic meglomaniac is my description
Adorable?
In answer to posters question now I ve got over my shock I don’t rate either but at least May wouldn’t rush in where angels fear to tread but no neither would be my answer to that one

OldMeg Sat 26-May-18 12:09:54

Belgravian love your sense of the ridiculous ???

Bridgeit Sat 26-May-18 11:18:38

I thought I would just check Lemons?

Jane10 Sat 26-May-18 10:29:51

Integrity is important too of course and Trump seems to have had an integrity bypass.

Bridgeit Sat 26-May-18 10:22:07

Yes Winterwhite, especially with Kim jong un in the mix.

winterwhite Sat 26-May-18 10:15:46

It depends how you describe strong, and whether other characteristics such as rashness, egoism, short concentration span combine to make strength dangerous. Esp as here when it lies in the power of the office, not the calibre of the office holder.
Weakness not much better either when it comes to negotiations, esp as here where serious past weaknesses have combined to discredit the PM abroad as well as at home.
This is why the outlook seems to me so bleak.