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Discussion of transgender issues

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stella1949 Wed 13-Jun-18 23:04:44

I agree . It always seems that the athletes want to compete as women - the other female athletes must feel cheated when a trans competitor flies past them, helped by their male body development.

As for the communal toilets, it's time we had all individual toilets for men and women. Problem solved.

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newnanny Wed 13-Jun-18 22:46:15

I don't mind one way or another if individuals want to change their gender but I do object to transgender people demanding rights over and above those that others get. In swimming pools men transitioning to women but still legally men get to change in women's communal changing room, which makes many women uncomfortable to the point they stay home and do not swim, when they could use unisex disabled changing room separate cubicle but don't want to. In sport also men transitioning into females but still producing testosterone want to compete as women. This should only be allowed if they take hormone blockers so have no physiological advantage over women. I feel like they want it both ways to be women but not to give up their testosterone.

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hildajenniJ Wed 13-Jun-18 21:41:42

Your link doesn't work Azie09, here it is again

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/2018/jun/13/mumsnet-transgender-row-feminism-tougher-forum-rules

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Azie09 Wed 13-Jun-18 21:19:46

There have been some interesting discussions of the rise of transgender as an issue on Gransnet and I've been very grateful to those who have brought this to my and others' attention. I was surprised to see this Guardian article about Mumsnet bringing in tougher rules about debating transgender as a result of complaints.

Mumsnet brings in tougher forum rules after transgender row

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jun/13/mumsnet-transgender-row-feminism-tougher-forum-rules?

I'm quite disturbed by the whole business. Not that a few people might feel they've been born into the wrong body but how this has been politicised and broadened into a massive movement affecting young people before they have sufficient maturity to really know themselves. Also that legislation is being passed with vast swathes of the country having little idea.
I hope the Gransnet moderators are not considering similar gagging of posters.

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